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Thread: This Weekend's Fixtures & Midwek Fixtures (29/30 Nov/01/03/04/05 Dec)

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    They need to drop points in at least 2 games this month otherwise I don’t see how we or anyone will be catching them.

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    Relying on Newcastle, Everton and Tottenham this month.

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    And us needing to win every game.

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    It's a good thing everyone's been saying Liverpool are going to totally flunk the second half of the season or I'd be worried right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    It's a good thing everyone's been saying Liverpool are going to totally flunk the second half of the season or I'd be worried right now
    It’s getting harder to discount them. But we’ve got our tails up and they can’t keep ON winning every game…can they?! I haven’t given up but let see where we are at the turn of the year

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    Seriously if Citeh keep stumbling amd we can keep our run going, it could be quite an exciting season, be we need to start closing the gap on Liverpool pretty soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It’s getting harder to discount them. But we’ve got our tails up and they can’t keep ON winning every game…can they?! I haven’t given up but let see where we are at the turn of the year
    Yet nothing has changed really for me. They are winning games I’d expect them to win

    I’ll take them seriously if they come through Xmas unscathed. Hoping a completely useless Southampton and a completely demoralised City could help us out is one thing. Now I think the pressure is on them to put a sustained run together. City were completely hopeless and for all people going on about how hungry Liverpool were, they seemed to get more food down themselves rather than in their mouth.


    As I said last week, the surprise has been about the extent of city’s collapse (I think today was more than just Rodri and lack of confidence, Guardiola completely botched it tactically) and to a lesser extent our own. Some very unforgivable results, number 1 in my view was the failure to beat Liverpool back in October (to my mind far more painful and infuriating than the losses to Bournemouth and Newcastle which we deserved nothing from)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Yet nothing has changed really for me
    I’d expect nothing less.
    But your excuses about them getting lucky or playing teams they should win or the opposition being no good are looking increasingly desperate and ridiculous with every game.
    Spurs should beat Ipswich. And Fulham, while we are here. Teams don’t win every game they should win - except Liverpool have so far. Nottingham at home being the one and somewhat bizarre outlier.

    They’re not just contenders, they have to be favourites right now.
    I didn’t expect that at the start of the season, but here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I’d expect nothing less.
    But your excuses about them getting lucky or playing teams they should win or the opposition being no good are looking increasingly desperate and ridiculous with every game.
    Spurs should beat Ipswich. And Fulham, while we are here. Teams don’t win every game they should win - except Liverpool have so far. Nottingham at home being the one and somewhat bizarre outlier.

    They’re not just contenders, they have to be favourites right now.
    I didn’t expect that at the start of the season, but here we are.
    I don’t know what to tell you, as I’ve said we could be looking at another Leicester City style season where the shoe doesn’t drop, or more accurately the usual sides fail to get it together. But actually I think it’s far more ridiculous to suggest 13 games in that it’s been anything other than easy fixtures and luck (well a mixture of luck and favourable decisions)


    As I said here earlier, I think a lot of people are panicking prematurely. As if nine point gap to Liverpool means anything the way it would if it was a nine point gap to City

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I don’t know what to tell you, as I’ve said we could be looking at another Leicester City style season where the shoe doesn’t drop, or more accurately the usual sides fail to get it together.
    This is absolutely nothing like Leicester. They were completely out of the blue challengers, literally no-one would have tipped them pre-season. Now I wouldn't have tipped Liverpool - well, I didn't - but I'd have backed them for Top 4, they only finished 7 points off us last year and they were 14 points above Villa in 4th. They're not completely out of left field. Leicester won the league with 81 points in a season when no-one else got much more than 70. They won about 60% of their league games. That would only have been good enough for 4th last season.

    But actually I think it’s far more ridiculous to suggest 13 games in that it’s been anything other than easy fixtures and luck (well a mixture of luck and favourable decisions)
    That opinion is looking more and more like stubbornness with every game that goes by and they keep winning. But OK, let's look at their fixtures up till the turn of the year - a milestone we both agree is important:

    Newcastle (A) - currently in 11th, just lost to West Ham at home.
    Everton (A) - Yes it's a derby but they're currently 15th, having won 2 games all season.
    Fulham (H) - Mid-table, in 10th. Should be a routine home win/
    Spurs (A) - Well OK, that could be a difficult one. Spurs blow hot and cold a bit, they're certainly capable of getting something but equally capable of getting thumped.
    Leicester (H) - Currently hovering just above the relegation zone.
    West Ham (A) - You saw what we did to them, how are they going to stop Liverpool?

    So by your own metric these are all games they "should" win, with the exception of Spurs and they're so random I don't know what to expect in that one.
    So where are we making up those points?

    As I said here earlier, I think a lot of people are panicking prematurely. As if nine point gap to Liverpool means anything the way it would if it was a nine point gap to City
    I wouldn't say I was panicking, but dismissing it as luck and easy fixtures is looking increasingly idiotic. I haven't thrown in the towel yet but looking at their fixtures I don't see where they're going to drop many points this year other than surely they have to at some point - but I keep thinking that and they keep winning.

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