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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Wrong.

    But…Liverpool aren’t going to win and win and win either like City did. I reckon there are some twists left yet. Liverpool have to be favourites but it’s not a done deal quite yet.
    I don’t see any twists to be honest. It’s the most boring season since the last time Liverpool won it.

    For me Arteta very much needs to bag a cup now because the credit in the bank he’s rightfully earned is on the way out. This season cannot just be allowed fall into a pit of nothingness like it so often did with Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t see any twists to be honest. It’s the most boring season since the last time Liverpool won it.

    For me Arteta very much needs to bag a cup now because the credit in the bank he’s rightfully earned is on the way out. This season cannot just be allowed fall into a pit of nothingness like it so often did with Wenger.
    I’m not having a go at you here because you’re not the only one who has said this. But even if we won the league cup and the fa cup…how does that change anything. The league cup is a nothing trophy, and we’ve had more than enough fa cups. We aren’t going to win the champions league, you know it, I know it….i suspect even that deluded scrote Arteta knows it.

    The league was there for us to win this season. And I say that even with the completely strange Transfer decisions. But you can’t win six games from thirteen and expect anything good to come your way.

    Frankly even if by some miracle we did win the champions league that wouldn’t make up for missing out on the league.

    Letters is right in that Liverpool will drop points, because they aren’t that good and they will only have so many teams willing to oblige them. But if we can’t do our bit it simply doesn’t matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t see any twists to be honest. It’s the most boring season since the last time Liverpool won it.
    You might be right but honestly some people behave like they’ve never seen football before.
    So many seasons there have been big changes as teams who look imperious start to wobble.
    If Liverpool keep going like they have then they’ll canter to the title and fair play, but there’s a long way to go so I still think it’s a bit early to throw in the towel.
    That said with the injuries we have I am not optimistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’m not having a go at you here because you’re not the only one who has said this. But even if we won the league cup and the fa cup…how does that change anything. The league cup is a nothing trophy, and we’ve had more than enough fa cups. We aren’t going to win the champions league, you know it, I know it….i suspect even that deluded scrote Arteta knows it.

    The league was there for us to win this season. And I say that even with the completely strange Transfer decisions. But you can’t win six games from thirteen and expect anything good to come your way.

    Frankly even if by some miracle we did win the champions league that wouldn’t make up for missing out on the league.

    Letters is right in that Liverpool will drop points, because they aren’t that good and they will only have so many teams willing to oblige them. But if we can’t do our bit it simply doesn’t matter
    I agree that a cup win isn’t going to gloss over how we’ve fumbled the league but quite simply, I am a fan and just want to see us win something. Anything. Otherwise what’s the point, you might as well just turn this shite off now and come back in August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I agree that a cup win isn’t going to gloss over how we’ve fumbled the league but quite simply, I am a fan and just want to see us win something. Anything. Otherwise what’s the point, you might as well just turn this shite off now and come back in August.
    That’s pretty much what I intend to do at this point

    And to be honest, I think that may continue until the Kroenkes decide they care about the club enough to sack this fraud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You might be right but honestly some people behave like they’ve never seen football before.
    So many seasons there have been big changes as teams who look imperious start to wobble.
    If Liverpool keep going like they have then they’ll canter to the title and fair play, but there’s a long way to go so I still think it’s a bit early to throw in the towel.
    That said with the injuries we have I am not optimistic
    I’m not sure any team has overhauled what is de facto an 11 point deficit even half way through the season

    My optimism that we could catch Liverpool was routed in the belief that after the Chelsea game we should probably go on a run of wins. Probably taking us up to February…I didn’t factor in that Arteta would be so inept that we couldn’t beat teams like Fulham, Everton or Brighton in one of the longest barren spells they’ve had in years.

    Failure of imagination I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’m not sure any team has overhauled what is de facto an 11 point deficit even half way through the season
    I'm very confused about your position.

    You think Liverpool will drop points but you are also pre-supposing they will win the games in hand.
    You lament our form and say that with that record you can't "expect anything good to come your way." but you have also noted that we've had harder games this season and we are points wise where we were at this stage last season. You not long ago reminded (someone) what a slog the first half of last season was at times.

    So...what gives?

    Don't get me wrong, we aren't clicking this season and I don't expect that to suddenly change, I don't think we're going to go on a run anything like last year but I also don't think Liverpool will do what City did either. So...it is hard to see past Liverpool but I think it's a bit early to throw in the towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Don't get me wrong, we aren't clicking this season and I don't expect that to suddenly change, I don't think we're going to go on a run anything like last year but I also don't think Liverpool will do what City did either. So...it is hard to see past Liverpool but I think it's a bit early to throw in the towel.
    The thing is, Liverpool won’t need to do what City did because they won’t have strong enough competition and that’s the difference here. They’re not being tested or having questions asked of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'm very confused about your position.

    You think Liverpool will drop points but you are also pre-supposing they will win the games in hand.
    You lament our form and say that with that record you can't "expect anything good to come your way." but you have also noted that we've had harder games this season and we are points wise where we were at this stage last season. You not long ago reminded (someone) what a slog the first half of last season was at times.

    So...what gives?

    Don't get me wrong, we aren't clicking this season and I don't expect that to suddenly change, I don't think we're going to go on a run anything like last year but I also don't think Liverpool will do what City did either. So...it is hard to see past Liverpool but I think it's a bit early to throw in the towel.
    Because the games in hand they have are Everton away and United at home. Yes Everton got draws against us and Chelsea and city (but maybe the link is that all three of us are in horrible form) and United is the Ayrton Senna of car crashes.

    Who knows maybe they will drop points in those games. But five wins from 11 on the road is appalling for a club like us, 6 wins from 13 games is appalling for a club like us. Nothing gives me any belief that we can capitalise. The joke is maybe United will get a shock result tomorrow but again we couldn’t assert the pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    The thing is, Liverpool won’t need to do what City did because they won’t have strong enough competition and that’s the difference here. They’re not being tested or having questions asked of them.
    It's very disappointing that we've failed to take advantage of the slips Liverpool have made.
    I think we can all agree we should be a lot closer to them than we are.

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