Arsenal AGM

[Özim]

Just read Le Grove. In the AGM meeting, Wenger said he was involved with the decision to raise ticket prices. This guy...

He's got to make sure he covers his 6 million a year salary after all.

People who think Wenger is some sort of pawn being fed to the lions need to look back at everything he's said and done over the years, he's got this pipedream about building a team full of kids who dominate the world.....it's never happened despite his best efforts and never will, he just will never admit it.

I think he's far too involved in all aspects of the club, that's what happens when a manager is at a club for so long, problem is success isn't really his primary goal anymore...it's just about being morally superior and proving people wrong following a path which will never lead anywhere.

If you look at PHW, he sums up the club these days, doesn't give a toss about the fans....even when they want him to leave he's adamant he won't....Wenger for me doesn't care about the fans an awful lot either IMO, else he wouldn't keep insulting their intelligence and putting them through this crap, it really more about him and what he feels is right, which isn't necessarily right of course.

Rotten from top to bottom at the moment.....

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Just read Le Grove. In the AGM meeting, Wenger said he was involved with the decision to raise ticket prices. This guy...

Which manager is not ? you think fergie don't have a say in the mancs ticket prices or mancini at city.

Don't see the problem tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's got to make sure he covers his 6 million a year salary after all.

People who think Wenger is some sort of pawn being fed to the lions need to look back at everything he's said and done over the years, he's got this pipedream about building a team full of kids who dominate the world.....it's never happened despite his best efforts and never will, he just will never admit it.

I think he's far too involved in all aspects of the club, that's what happens when a manager is at a club for so long, problem is success isn't really his primary goal anymore...it's just about being morally superior and proving people wrong following a path which will never lead anywhere.

If you look at PHW, he sums up the club these days, doesn't give a toss about the fans....even when they want him to leave he's adamant he won't....Wenger for me doesn't care about the fans an awful lot either IMO, else he wouldn't keep insulting their intelligence and putting them through this crap, it really more about him and what he feels is right, which isn't necessarily right of course.

Rotten from top to bottom at the moment.....

Well Arsenal is a business now why would they care about the fans, its the fans who need to stop paying because nothing will change from the board or the manager whilst all are still here.

if the fans want to be heard they need to boycott games and cancel memberships hit them where it really hurts.

why would aw care about some of the fans when they keep insulting him anyway. end of the day whether you like it or not he has done enough to get him salarly or he'd be sacked.

his aim like any manager is to please his board then his fans/staff/Customers.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I think he's far too involved in all aspects of the club,

Rotten from top to bottom at the moment.....

I wouuldnt say the very bottom......although the players do at times come across as they dont give a shit, I think most do!

However I doubt whether there is anyone, be it anti-Wenger or BH who wish that Wenger would just concentrate on the football side of things and that only......for the players to concentrate on the playing the game and that only and a board of directors to concentrate on running the club as a football club not as an avenue to get rich.

Whether we get these wishes under the current climate is another thing, I believe we may be too far down the line......Wenger has got his fingers in too many pies and it deflects him away from what should be his primary job......the players are controlled by their agents and only seem to play for the team once they know they are secure off the pitch and the board...........over to you NQ

[Joker]

I'm not surprised Wenger was involved in the decision to raise ticket prices. He's a free market fundamentalist who believes in "market forces"

[Niall_Quinn]

I wouuldnt say the very bottom......although the players do at times come across as they dont give a shit, I think most do!

However I doubt whether there is anyone, be it anti-Wenger or BH who wish that Wenger would just concentrate on the football side of things and that only......for the players to concentrate on the playing the game and that only and a board of directors to concentrate on running the club as a football club not as an avenue to get rich.

Whether we get these wishes under the current climate is another thing, I believe we may be too far down the line......Wenger has got his fingers in too many pies and it deflects him away from what should be his primary job......the players are controlled by their agents and only seem to play for the team once they know they are secure off the pitch and the board...........over to you NQ

Thank you JSAO, and I just want to say my door will always be open to all of you.

So how do we put the sugar on the cherry on the icing on the top of this day? Easy. Let's kill the board!

Who's with me?

[Super Ghel]

Let me give the mods some help since it's obviously still a big issue to someone

In what world do you belong where an internal employee has the final word in the hiring or firing process of a company CEO? Please tell me cos’ I’ll like to know. And why do you have to keep jumping to the extremes every time that Wenger’s a puppet if he’s not leading the board by the nose? Why can’t he just be an employee who sees eye to eye with his employers, but maybe for different reasons? How many times do posters like NQ, JSAO, myself and numerous others here have to repeat ourselves before that point finally registers?

Look FY, contrary to what you believe (or inferred from various articles), it’s not within the scope of Arsene’s role to appoint the CEO of the club. That final decision rests in the hands of the Board of Directors full stop. If Arsene was involved in any way during the consultation process, it was merely a way for the board to determine if the two can work well together; to see if the chemistry was right for a successful team partnership. Get it? Goddamn FOL was right. It’s a waste of time with certain people here.

[Super Ghel]

Note to mods: I’m reposting an edited version (without the insults) of my prior reply because I feel total deletion was overly harsh on your part as my post contained a lot of valid points which hopefully FY can take on board when making future posts here (however unlikely that may seem). If I've missed any parts which you deem inappropriate then just go ahead and edit

It’s staggering how some innocuous exchanges or pent up angst can lead to such embarrassing meltdowns. I am not surprised that you showed true form on cue by resorting to some primal pissing contest or delusional fits over the internet when the logical arguments or avenues are exhausted from your end yet again FY. Because that’s exactly what the majority of your posts seem like to most people around here; it revolves around your same tired pre-occupation of harping your flawed arguments again and again, having total disregard and no basic consideration to the many excellent points raised by various intelligent posters in this forum.

See the point I raised above, about how to keep you repeating the same thing by jumping to extremes that Wenger’s a puppet if he’s not leading the board by the nose? Did you not read NQ’s or JSAO’s posts explaining the folly of your argument? Why can’t you show some mature ability to digest valid points made by others for a change? Why don’t you show some coherent logical counter arguments instead of coming off like a dyslexic every time? Did Syn recently not point this fact out to you, that you keep avoiding legitimate points? What did you do? Dismiss his point entirely by claiming it was humour when the truth is, you’re fooling nobody here in this forum as the majority of your posts exactly reflect the true nature of your bias on the subject. Did JSAO not make a sarcastic point as well recently about how you’re hiding under the pretense of humour?

Sure, I’m aware that my brand of wit can be rather stinging or too much for you to handle but when you show no such consideration to others, why should anybody here extend you the same courtesy? It’s not like I’m throwing a hissy fit like you are right now or don’t have any coherence in my points or are depriving you of an opportunity to counter my argument in any way, shape or form. Evidently this pent up torment of yours goes back weeks ago when I made that mong paradox argument. Look, it was never my intention to refer to you as a mong directly in the first place; the opportunity was there for you to choose the non –mong option or counter my arguments logically, but what did you resort to?

You threw a hissy fit (much like what you’re doing now) like it was some personal attack or racial slur of sorts when you were out of logical replies. And with regards to your ethnicity, the truth is, it was merely exploratory conjecture on my part, as I seem to recall such references being made about you during my sparse visits here in the past. So, in the context of my usage with the Anglo-Bengal reference, it was only light banter since you started making so many odd references about the English dictionary; I just put two and two together and let my natural charm do the rest.

Hell I don’t think I’m overstepping the boundaries of acceptability by any means in our interesting little exchange here, but if you were offended in any way, well then, let’s have the mods decide. There’s no need for any mano-a-mano cockfights via PM or some prepubescent posturing from your end. I have neither the time, nor the slightest interest in such frivolities. It’s goddamn pointless, not to mention embarrassing.

[Ollie the Optimist]

think wengers speech at the agm was more significant then it first seemed. he said the team would fight, two days later they do just that. it united the most of fans when he said it behind him and the team and i think the players heard it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Let me give the mods some help since it's obviously still a big issue to someone

In what world do you belong where an internal employee has the final word in the hiring or firing process of a company CEO? Please tell me cos’ I’ll like to know. And why do you have to keep jumping to the extremes every time that Wenger’s a puppet if he’s not leading the board by the nose? Why can’t he just be an employee who sees eye to eye with his employers, but maybe for different reasons? How many times do posters like NQ, JSAO, myself and numerous others here have to repeat ourselves before that point finally registers?

Look FY, contrary to what you believe (or inferred from various articles), it’s not within the scope of Arsene’s role to appoint the CEO of the club. That final decision rests in the hands of the Board of Directors full stop. If Arsene was involved in any way during the consultation process, it was merely a way for the board to determine if the two can work well together; to see if the chemistry was right for a successful team partnership. Get it? Goddamn FOL was right. It’s a waste of time with certain people here.

Spot on SG don't see it a big deal about him being involved.