When a player is out of contract, he's free to do whatever he wants.
Also, when your captain can leave you to play for Man Utd...this sort of thing is a drop in the ocean.
When a player is out of contract, he's free to do whatever he wants.
Also, when your captain can leave you to play for Man Utd...this sort of thing is a drop in the ocean.
This is true if we accept footballers are just doing a job and the whole club, fan thing is irrelevant and has no place in sport. By the same standard, as fans we should all just go and support the gypos now. They won, they will probably buy it again next year, it's a nobrainer for us to go and give our money to them and bask in the "glory". But why don't we do it?Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Because there's more to football than business or jobs and frankly if the players have forgotten that we should cheer for the club but never cheer for them again. We shouldn't pay money to buy shirts with their name on the back, we should sit silently as their name is announced, we should sound a large MEH when they come around with their pens to sign autographs, we should tell our kids - hey, it's just a bloke who works for the club, no big deal. We should treat them the same way they increasingly treat us. Who sticks around through thick and thin? Who pumps the money into the club that makes the wheel turn and provides the cash to these greedy players in return for disrespect? Who really feels the affinity, who really has the ambition?
And in fact what about the club itself? What about the board? What do they think of the fans? I think we know only too well. So let's not cheer for them either. Which just leaves a name. Is that what we have as fans now - just the name?
Sagna is a nasty symptom of what the game has become, like Cashley before him and the lesbian and that vicious traitorous cunt van Cash Machine. And Sol Campbell, btw, which is why I never liked him. The hero Rooney would have swapped colours too had the fans not threatened to hound his arse.
Nope, there's more to real football than how much everyone can spend or take. The players at top clubs now get paid enough to set them up for several lives over regardless of who they play for. Decades back when they earned fuck all it was true that the career and earnings window was short. Now they are banking millions a year. So fuck them, this disloyalty and disrespect for the fans has nothing to do with ambition or security. It's just pure greed. Leaving a club where he'd start every game so he can sit on a bench for extra cash. What a fucking sad end to a career, the guy has no more respect for himself than he has for us.
In conclusion. Sagna - cunt. No doubt about it. Hope he trips over the bench and breaks his fucking legs.
Seriously - what a cunt.
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I've never really liked this comparison between footballers and regular workers - for me, there's a world of difference between you or I going for a better job, where the extra few K/year you'd be earning could make a big difference to your quality of life, and a footballer who's already a millionaire moving to another club who will make him even more of a millionaire. In one sense, I know what you're saying is absolutely right - when you apply ruthless, objective logic to it, then it's a no-brainer: if you've got two jobs there, and one pays more, then you go with that one. But from a fan's POV, it just feels like footballers have the means to be a little more decent than that, and show a little bit more consideration to the supporters, especially when it's those supporters that have been paying your wages up until this point?
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I think I'd agree with you if we were talking about a player who was London born and bred and had been a product of our youth system. But he didnt join us from Auxerre in 2007 as a life long boy hood fan, he joined us to play in a better league and have a better pay packet.
And that will be the case presumably for whoever we bring in to replace him.
I think when you consider the Money in the game it's almost absurd to expect footballers to have this purist mentality.
Sagna obviously still considers himself a top player, and as such he will want to join a top club and if he wants to remain in England why wouldn't he join a rival club if he feels he can get better money from them. Because he has played for Arsenal why would that necessarily make him a fan?
The money we bring in as supporters wouldn't even touch the sides when it comes to paying the wage bill. Also reverse the argument, imagine your an English full back who had reached the age of 31 and has played for a club like Lille for seven years. You have run down your contract as your not impressed with the offer on the table, would you really turn down a mega bucks offer from Monaco where you have the chance to displace their first chance full back and double your money for a club that whilst you've been happy playing for, you have no emotional attachment to ?
I have no problem with him moving on, and going after one last big pay-day - I think he's earned that right after how he's performed for us over the years - I'm just saying that it would be nice if he could pick someone who isn't a direct rival in the same league. If he decides to go to PSG or Inter or Munich or somewhere, I'd shake his hand and wish him all the best...
Last edited by I am invisible; 16-05-2014 at 12:42 PM.
I agree and to be honest I think he would go to PSG if not for the top rate of tax, and there is no other big side abroad where he'd get the money.
Yes it does, it touches both sides and is funded in the main by the supporters. Apart from gate receipts, who buys the shirts, sandwiches and commemorative DVDs? Who pays to watch football on Sky Sports? Gardening enthusiasts? When Emirates Airlines shells out millions, where did the money come from (without going into too much gory detail)? Okay not just football supporters but in the main private individuals, it's not a gift. The payback is the huge advertising. But who would want to pay big to advertise in partnership with a club that has 500 supporters? It's the 60,000 in the stadium and the millions at home or abroad watching on TV that seals the deal. Absolutely the supporters generate the revenue - almost all of it. It would be nice in a while for somebody to say thanks, like Adams or Bergkamp managed. I don't think the "came from Auxerre" arguments holds up either. Who was Sagna before he came to Arsenal? What has occurred since that even puts him in a position to whore out to the gypos? Players forget all this when it comes to contract negotiations. They flit from being (supposedly) part of a club and all that entails one minute, to regular employees the next. It's as convenient as it is abusive. And if Sagna considers he's still a top player, why does he want to go and warm the gypo bench? Money. It's 100% money and a complete disregard of everything else that supports him in his privileged position.The money we bring in as supporters wouldn't even touch the sides when it comes to paying the wage bill.
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That's right, if he even gets a game he'll be running up and down cheering and hollering if our rivals score a goal against us. That's despicable. From now on players should just walk back to the centre circle if they score and say, shucks, just doing the job I was paid to do. No more of this running up to the fans to take the salute. Fuck them, if they are only employees and they'll hire out to the highest bidder then how can there be any loyalty in return? This is what players like Sagna are doing to the game. They are ripping the guts out of it for greed.
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So if I was a Doctor working for the NHS whose research had saved countless lives, I should feel that I would turn down an offer from a private company for untold financial reward and unlimited research funds because I owe a debt of gratitude to the tax payer?
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