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Thread: Champions League Group Stage Draw 2019/20 (29/08, 5PM BST).

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    1) The general feeling that they haven't really had to work for their "success", so it's kind of hard to admire or be impressed by anything they do.

    2) I guess a lot of rival fans resent the knock-on effect that these clubs have on the rest of us in terms of the prices and wages we're forced to pay.

    3) It's really fucking hard to gain any traction on team building, player development and generally trying to do things in a different / smarter way when fuckers like City, Chelsea and PSG are constantly hovering around, unsettling and poaching all of your best players. (I do think the other clubs are starting to turn this back on them now, and are quite deliberately milking these clubs for as much of their money as they can get, which is great in the long-term, but it's probably also a tacit admission that you're unlikely to be compete in the short-term.)

    4) Personally speaking, I just feel like all of the skill goes out of the coaching side of the game when teams are run like that. Part of what makes following a club interesting is things like how you manage a limited squad across a season and how you shuffle the pack when you're running low on options. It's things like the game plans and tactics you have to come up with to beat a tougher opponent, and seeing players who have been with you for years develop and find another level. It just doesn't feel like there's much skill or craft involved when you never have to worry about things like squad depth or fatigue. I just find it really boring.
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    All fairly valid reasons. I basically agree although I just care less when it's in a different league. Doesn't affect us so directly.
    But yeah, this isn't new of course. Chelsea showed you can buy success, City have showed you can do it with any club if you pump enough money in.
    I remember back in the day we were looking like we'd sign Shaun Wright-Phillips. Chelsea swooped in, doubled the price and stuck him on their bench. Because they could.
    It's the way the sport has gone unfortunately.

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    Equally though, Moan U show that you can spend a lot of money and still mess it up - spening loads on Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Bighead etc etc hasn't got them anywhere

    There's still skill to building a successful team and actually winning the biggest trophies

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    Bayern Munich: Neuer, Kimmich, Boateng, Alaba, Davies, Goretzka, Thiago, Gnabry, Muller, Perisic, Lewandowski.
    Subs: Ulreich, Hoffmann, Odriozola, Sule, Pavard, Martinez, Coutinho, Cuisance, Hernandez, Tolisso, Coman, Zirkzee.

    Lyon: Lopes, Denayer, Marcelo, Marcal, Dubois, Caqueret, Guimaraes, Aouar, Cornet, Ekambi, Depay.
    Subs: Diomande, Andersen, Pereira, Dembele, Traore, Mendes, Reine-Adelaide, De Souza, Tete, Tatarusanu, Bard, Cherki.

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    Depay misses a 20ft wide target. Jeez!

    Lyon missing opportunities. Much the better team right now
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    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    Lyon missed 3 chances. Now Gnabry fires Bayern ahead. The boy is world class now Wenger!
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    He's a bit good.

    Pulis.

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    Gnabbers makes it 2. Lyon
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    Lyon did their bit.

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    Quite sickening really how good Gnabry has become. Must be a 100m player now.

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