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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Yeah football has changed but there's not many clubs that treat their fans with so much contempt without really giving them anything. You could say Chelsea, but then they go out and sign top players and have won stuff over the years (so the fans get something out of it).
    we've had a century, they've had a decade. i'd hedge my bets to day they're not too happy right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8 View Post
    The board that includes Wenger have become filtthy rich from the Arsenal FC gravy train, they don't give a fcuk about me and you and the other 60,000 regulars at the Emirates being ripped of every season paying the highest prices in the country to watch a load of bollox. Wenger has a % of the player sales in his contract, so apart from his staggering 7.5 mill per season salary, I guarantee you he is making an additonal 5 mill plus all going to his offshore bank account in Monaco or Zurich. Even if half the season ticket holders did not renew thier ST's, the board know there are another 30K Arsenal fans, the johnny come latelys ready to splash the cash and inherit the season ticket. We are in a lose lose situation.
    This is what happens when upstairst you kick out those who loved the game, with those who only care about business. Then you have the likes or Friar and Hillwood, who once loved the game seem to be waiting for retirement. Danny Fiszman must be turning in his grave to see the way things had turned out.
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    in american sports they have a minimum total salary "floor" to prevent the owners bleeding the teams dry by taking the money while serving up a plate of shit.

    american owners will be american owners. theyre just doing what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    as i've said to you many times now, its so easy to say that as an internet supporter.

    you have forgotten what it is like to be a fan going to a game. that's another reality you can't see.
    You're there to support the team and lose yourself in the moment.

    I support Arsenal Football Club, not Wenger, the board or any other individuals. It's not easy to cut out something irrational like supporting a club. I don't go reguarly but the times I do go leave me wanting to go again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    we've had a century, they've had a decade. i'd hedge my bets to day they're not too happy right now.
    Maybe not but do you reckon they'd swap seats with us?

    I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Maybe not but do you reckon they'd swap seats with us?

    I doubt it.
    Yes.

    Not all their fans but some will. You only have to listend to Chav fans moaning about their club on radio to see some ain't happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Yes.

    Not all their fans but some will. You only have to listend to Chav fans moaning about their club on radio to see some ain't happy.
    Don't make me laugh, they sign top players are higher in the league and have won stuff in the last 7 years including the CL.

    There's no way in hell they'd swap with us, we're lying 10th and barely spend a penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Don't make me laugh, they sign top players are higher in the league and have won stuff in the last 7 years including the CL.

    There's no way in hell they'd swap with us, we're lying 10th and barely spend a penny.
    Yes because everything is about winning trophy's not all Chelsea fans think like you. Listen to Talk sport 606 and then you see what i mean.

    And im talking about history not the last 10 years, we have won more then them in our history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Yes because everything is about winning trophy's not all Chelsea fans think like you. Listen to Talk sport 606 and then you see what i mean.

    And im talking about history not the last 10 years, we have won more then them in our history.
    That's such a load of cr*p to be honest, football fans are fickle a few wins and all is forgotten a few defeats and it's the end of the world, given the chance they'd never swap with us because the reality is we're not competitive, don't bring in quality players, never make any changes and settle for 4th place......no Chelsea fan would be happy with what we put up with.

    Sure we have history and that's great, but ask Liverpool fans what that means right now? In addition we've never won the biggest prize the CL.

    Chelsea fans aren't happy that Benitez is in charge, but a few wins and it will all be forgotten and come next season when a new man comes in and improves things all will be well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    That's such a load of cr*p to be honest, football fans are fickle a few wins and all is forgotten a few defeats and it's the end of the world, given the chance they'd never swap with us because the reality is we're not competitive, don't bring in quality players, never make any changes and settle for 4th place......no Chelsea fan would be happy with what we put up with.

    Sure we have history and that's great, but ask Liverpool fans what that means right now? In addition we've never won the biggest prize the CL.
    Again im not talking about the roman era im talking about history. They had not history before Roman took over fact. We have a better history, not sure why you keep bringing up what they keep buying its irrelvant to the convensation.

    .no Chelsea fan would be happy with what we put up with.
    know all of them by history, just you cause fickle glory hunter don't mean they all are.

    Lets just agree to disagree.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 03-12-2012 at 12:33 AM.
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