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    He's a midfielder. We need a striker

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Why not lump Reus in there? Sure he doesn't have the same physique as say Suarez or Aguero but he has plenty of upper body strength, more in line with say Bale or RVP. We are just arguing over semantics here? You listed alternative players like RVP who has succeeded in PL, OK so Reus is like him then.

    I am not entirely clear on what your point is regarding Reus?
    If you haven't got it by now, I'm not sure you ever will, or even why you are responding at all, lol.

    For debates sake, I'll state it again. Reus is not (imho) well suited to playing in the CF position in a 433 or as Dr Singh mentioned a 451. That is a statement of theory. I don't suspect it will ever prove wrong, because I don't think that if a miracle happens and we actually sign the bloke, that Wenger will entertain playing him at CF, or that he will play there long enough to show that he isn't quite right for the role.

    I don't think he has anything like the physique or strength of RvP or Bale. Bale appears a light touch because of his diving antics as did the Conartist when he was at Man U prior to Real. That was before he went to Madrid became the second best player in the world and then people were like 'oooooh he's actually quite strong that boy'. Bale and Cronaldo are eerily similar in build in terms of physique, height and frame.

    A good friend of mine has worked with Cronaldo (for his sins) on a few commercials and had to tackle him and has told me a few times how tough he is. Not that his physical prowess really needs verifying. RvP I have met on a commercial too and although I didn't have to tackle him (thankfully as he was an Arsenal player at the time) he has quite an impressive frame and you can see on the field he is a strong player.

    If you think that's semantics then fair enough you're entitled to your view....but I think the differences between Reus and the players you have cited are significant enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    Unless you have an anti-Wenger agenda...

    What he's said is true, it was a horrible run and we've got another one in March. That's the price of competing at the top level.
    I said Wenger moaned about it, he did, you asked me to post the quote, I did end of story.

    I don't think the problem was how hard the run was, more the fact we didn't have enough cover and were already looking tired at the end of November. If you think this is going to be a problem then do something about it before the season starts.

    Incidentally our result against Everton isn't looking so good now that Sunderland went over to Goodison and beat them.

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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I said Wenger moaned about it, he did, you asked me to post the quote, I did end of story.

    I don't think the problem was how hard the run was, more the fact we didn't have enough cover and were already looking tired at the end of November. If you think this is going to be a problem then do something about it before the season starts.

    Incidentally our result against Everton isn't looking so good now that Sunderland went over to Goodison and beat them.
    Zimm, if we end up winning the league, would you give credit to Wenger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon View Post
    Zimm, if we end up winning the league, would you give credit to Wenger?
    If we do I he'll deserve credit, we won't be though, I've seen our run in March/April where I expect us to collapse like a house of cards on a windy day, we've shown we can't beat the best sides and can't handle hard runs of games. If we had a decent striker it might be different, can't see any available though and can't see us signing one. We'll most likely end up 3rd or 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I said Wenger moaned about it, he did, you asked me to post the quote, I did end of story..
    You posted a quote of him saying something obvious that most people would agree with.

    I guess people with an anti-Wenger and anti-Arsenal agenda would spin it into something negative.

    I don't think we'll win the league which will give you a good opportunity to moan - despite no-one seriously thinking we'd be serious contenders this year. If by some miracle we do win it you'll no doubt cite other teams' weakness and belittle the achievement. Anything other than giving us any credit. It's a WUM-WUM situation for you whatever happens.

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    A WUM-WUM situation
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    You posted a quote of him saying something obvious that most people would agree with.

    I guess people with an anti-Wenger and anti-Arsenal agenda would spin it into something negative.

    I don't think we'll win the league which will give you a good opportunity to moan - despite no-one seriously thinking we'd be serious contenders this year. If by some miracle we do win it you'll no doubt cite other teams' weakness and belittle the achievement. Anything other than giving us any credit. It's a WUM-WUM situation for you whatever happens.
    He said it not me, it's a typical excuse he likes to make for his teams failing to win games.

    Why didn't people think we were serious contenders? Well because of Wenger basically (due to lack of signings etc), we should be given the size of this club. I can't see us winning it, Man City clearly are a better team (they beat us convincingly) and Chelsea haven't played well at all but are still only a couple points behind which doesn't bode well for us considering we've played well overall.

    There's only 8 points covering the teams up to and including Spurs so things can change a lot and given our run in March/April and the way we've come through the recent run it's quite feasible we'll drop a fair few points then. There's an improvement this season but IMO we still have a soft centre as highlighted by our recent results, we've waited a long time for him to build a team good enough to win stuff and thus the cop out excuse of we didn't expect this or that doesn't wash with me, we might not have expected it but we should because after years of underperforming it's high time we delivered something.

    The last time we won something was in 2005 and yet if he doesn't win something this season it's OK because we've seen a slight improvement, before we judge that improvement let's see where we are at the end of the season shall we, things can change a lot. At this rate we could be saying the same thing in 10 years time, blaming all sorts of other factors for failing to succeed and pointing to small improvements as good reason to stick with what we've got.

    We need more quality signings and to start beating the top teams now IMO, the time for building a team over a period of time has passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    If you haven't got it by now, I'm not sure you ever will, or even why you are responding at all, lol.

    For debates sake, I'll state it again. Reus is not (imho) well suited to playing in the CF position in a 433 or as Dr Singh mentioned a 451. That is a statement of theory. I don't suspect it will ever prove wrong, because I don't think that if a miracle happens and we actually sign the bloke, that Wenger will entertain playing him at CF, or that he will play there long enough to show that he isn't quite right for the role.

    I don't think he has anything like the physique or strength of RvP or Bale. Bale appears a light touch because of his diving antics as did the Conartist when he was at Man U prior to Real. That was before he went to Madrid became the second best player in the world and then people were like 'oooooh he's actually quite strong that boy'. Bale and Cronaldo are eerily similar in build in terms of physique, height and frame.

    A good friend of mine has worked with Cronaldo (for his sins) on a few commercials and had to tackle him and has told me a few times how tough he is. Not that his physical prowess really needs verifying. RvP I have met on a commercial too and although I didn't have to tackle him (thankfully as he was an Arsenal player at the time) he has quite an impressive frame and you can see on the field he is a strong player.

    If you think that's semantics then fair enough you're entitled to your view....but I think the differences between Reus and the players you have cited are significant enough.
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