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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    After this many games maybe it isn't luck?
    So what you might as well be saying is Wenger isn't good enough to organise a team full of excellent players and provide them with the tactics to grab and control a match? LIKE HE USED TO BE ABLE TO DO! Instead we have this shit. Hang on and pray mid table teams don't hurt us?

    Yeah, I think he's well past it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    The season isn't over but there have been enough games that we're top on merit and Villa are bottom on...'merit', there have been enough games to start drawing some sesible conclusions about how things are going. If what you're saying is as big a problem as you seem to think then it would surely have cost us more than it has so far.

    What is silly logic is citing something as a problem despite the fact that we've done this time after time and pretty much always hung on to the result and then the one time we do concede a late goal go "Aha! See? Told you!"
    Late goals are going to happen. The issue is are they happening too often and this season I'd say no. We've got pretty good at hanging on in tight games. I don't like us going defensive but we seem to be good at it and it's better than previous seasons when we were bombing forward late in tight games and getting caught too often.
    There have been enough games over the years to say Wenger can make bad tactical subs and this was one of them. Your staunch defence is ridiculous because the season isn't over. So even though it hasn't costs us that much so far, we don't know how this season will pan out and the question is will he learn from this experience? I don't know but I would have thought after the experiences we've had in the past, like that infamous Tottenham game, we'd stop taking off our attacking threats all at once. Especially when we've conceded goals in a game where our defence looks shaky and 1 goal changes the tie.

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    Wenger has made bad tactical substitutions but I disagree that last night was a case of this,

    With Walcott he'd had a bad game and it seemed reasonable to replace him with a player who could get back and defend as well as run with the ball out of defence in Gibbs, Campbell had for me an excellent game last night but looked totally dead and it was right to replace him with the Ox.
    And as for the Ozil sub, after half hour of being pinned back it's hard to change the momentum in a game and it was better to bring on a player who could sit back and help us sit on what we had (from 54 minutes to the time he came off there was nothing i would call a glaring chance to kill off the game).
    We didn't win and I can accept that's disappointing, but I don't think we deserved to win the game or were ever in a position to kill it off.
    Last season was different I think we had a man advantage and should have looked to assert ourselves more to see out the win or get a killer third goal, the attacking players we had were just not capable of building up the head of steam to do that last night.

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    The only sub that didn't really work was The Ox as he was poor yet again giving the ball away and fucking up a few counters that perhaps could have allowed us to go 4 - 2 up and kill the game. The last goal was one of those that just happens, kind of lucky that Joe Allen was in the right place at the right time. Twat probably won't score again all season.

    The bigger concern for me was the first half where Liverpool were all over us and looked like they could score at any minute. It's been pointed out how porous they Flamini/Ramsey midfield is and boy was that exploited last night. They were just steamrollered right through it and Flamini especially couldn't cope with it; we would have won that game with Coquelin and Santi in the middle and it was telling how Wenger chose to mention that Elneny would be available for Stoke in the post match conference. Mind you, offensively Liverpool played out of their skins. Pressing and harrying us at every opportunity and pinning us back deep - it's exactly how they played when they thrashed City 4 - 1 and if they do that against our rivals then it won't be all bad.

    The ref (Mike Jones) was terrible. He's not a blatently corrupt one like Dean or Taylor but he's one that's weak and afraid to make big decisions against a racous home crowd. There were so many times in the first half during Liverpool's aggressive pressing where they simply just bundled us over or fouled us to get the ball which weren't called, and god knows how Clyne or Can didn't get sent off.

    I mean a draw away at Anfield on the face of it isn't a bad result, it's just the manner of it makes it painful and dissapointing. Oh well, I'm slightly less gutted then I was yesterday and nothing would cheer me up than a win at the Brittainia. Come on you cunts, don't throw this chance away!!

    On to some positives:

    - Campbell was godlike yesterday. Worked his ass off and had two assists (should have had three). MOTM. Honestly think it has to be him and Alexis to start wide once the latter returns.

    - Our fullbacks were strong. Monreal especially had Ibe in his pocket for most of the game.

    - We showed great resolve to get back into the game

    - Mignolet
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post

    The ref (Mike Jones) was terrible. He's not a blatently corrupt one like Dean or Taylor but he's one that's weak and afraid to make big decisions against a racous home crowd. There were so many times in the first half during Liverpool's aggressive pressing where they simply just bundled us over or fouled us to get the ball which weren't called, and god knows how Clyne or Can didn't get sent off.
    To add to this, it seemed like every time Giroud won an aerial challenge (and he dominated these) a foul was given against him.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm View Post
    To add to this, it seemed like every time Giroud won an aerial challenge (and he dominated these) a foul was given against him.
    Yep. Not to mention that Giroud was getting kicked lumps out of by Sakho in the process which meant they should have been fouls for us.


    Sigh, why are there so few decent PL refs?
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    Ramsey has killed Alan Rickman now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    Ramsey has killed Alan Rickman now...
    Wasn't David Bowie at the weekend enough for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Wasn't David Bowie at the weekend enough for him?
    What happens if he gets a hattrick? Are we talking genocide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    What happens if he gets a hattrick? Are we talking genocide?
    Governments will fall, for sure
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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