I think it turned from 2011 after the League Cup final defeat, the majority (on here) at least were Wenger in until then. Although wanting Wenger out has always remained a source of ridicule on here, it's only the last 18 months where I think everyone on this forum has now come round to the same viewpoint.
When we won the FA Cup in 2014 many were supportive of Wenger signing a new contract.
Supportive with massive conditions attached, namely the funds being released for us to seriously compete in the transfer market and that Wenger changed all his bullshit habits and started putting a competitive team on the pitch and ditching this 4th place champions bullshit. It appeared things were possibly on track at that point, Ozil in, a minor trophy to break the hoodoo. But of course Wenger fucked it all up which was pretty much inevitable but he was given the benefit of the doubt nonetheless. When people say Wenger should have been allowed another crack, to try to get things back on track, with mutual respect and dignity - that was it. That's exactly what he was given. Now the Wengerites are saying the same thing again. Respect, dignity - we did all that! Look what happened.Originally Posted by Letters
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Fair point
In that case, Ashburton goes way before 2011 and the league cup defeat. Cesc had already left by 2012-13 season. We've been shockingly shite for a long long time. It's 2017.
This season alone, when was the last performance where we played controlled, organised and attacking football and also looked secure at the back? This season has been a new low.
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We've been abject this season. Really poor.
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
Chelsea and Basel at home. Other than that....shocking. Same as the season before where we're picking out that 1 game against Utd as a standout. Is that the new norm?
And the manager keeps sending us out on the pitch to do the same things. This is the one overriding problem that makes all the noise about 300 hours a week working for Arsenal night and day and dignity and legacy a nonsense. In the end Wenger is paid to do a job and he's not doing it. And for seasons he's had the chance to loosen his grip, bring in some help and freshen things up with new ideas. But look at what has happened. Assistants have come and gone, ex-players have been shunned or shown the door. People who genuinely love the club are stuck on the outside while a bunch of profiteers are all making bank. It all stems from Wenger's inability to change even in the face of overwhelming evidence such as a season like this one we've been enduring. He's a hugely negative force now, doing real damage. This board is idiotic, the biggest Wengerites of all. Just assuming the guy is infallible and everything can be left to him without question. Every warning sign has been missed or ignored. That lot haven't been doing their job either. And now it seems the players can't be arsed either.
What happens when the fans step up to do their job and raise their voices pointing out these obvious problems? They get savaged by the media and pricks like Gary Neville. And the very people who have allowed the club to slip into this downward trending rut through their complacency and incompetence have jumped onboard and suggested the fans are part of the problem. Do they really imagine, given what they have (or should have) seen over the last few seasons that all the fans just sitting there cheering away through every shit show would have made a difference? Actually applauding these fuckers for not doing their jobs? It's insulting how irrelevant and stupid they must think we are.
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The lap of "appreciation" will be interesting this year...
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