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Thread: Good Bye RVP!

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    If reports are to be believed, Walcott could be next to declare his intention to leave or not sign a new contract as a committed RVP was central to his negotiations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I think he's saying we're not willing to change the way we do things.

    He's not asking to dictate who we buy, just that we show some ambition IMO. Players have long been calling for some spending and they've been spot on as we've seen what's happened in the last 7 years.

    I'd rather the players got their wish then us continuing the way we have been, Wenger and co won't do the necessary, noone believes in the project anymore...if noone believes isn't it time for a change.

    Sorry one person believes, but he is sadly deluded.
    yeah but we have.

    we signed podolski and giroud, which as MO says, is completely against wengers usual rationale. we're also clearing out the decks with the dead wood/youth project, so there is signs of change.

    that tells me robin wanted out all along and made excuses to try and justify his decision. he probably thought we wouldn't strengthen and when he saw we did, he made sure to release the statement asap to get his imminent move, even before another set of crucial meetings with the board which were pencilled in for mid july.

    i dont buy this 'we dont share the same vision'... we just bought 2 high calibre players ffs. its an absolute cop out excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I guess the reports of him being one of the c***s in the Dutch camp weren't really far off the mark.
    I reckon he loves Arsenal, he's always shown signs that he does.

    When a player who loves the club (much like Cesc did) and still leaves you know there's a problem, this is a rational decision based on his circumstances and wanting to achieve something in his career and it's fair enough he's entitled to not re-sign a contract.

    If you want players to sign you have to convince them that you're serious about winning, we've shown over the years we're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    yeah but we have.

    we signed podolski and giroud, which as MO says, is completely against wengers usual rationale. we're also clearing out the decks with the dead wood/youth project, so there is signs of change.

    that tells me robin wanted out all along and made excuses to try and justify his decision. he probably thought we wouldn't strengthen and when he saw we did, he made sure to release the statement asap to get his imminent move, even before another set of crucial meetings with the board which were pencilled in for mid july.

    i dont buy this 'we dont share the same vision'... we just bought 2 high calibre players ffs. its an absolute cop out excuse.
    We signed them knowing he was on his way, I'm convinced of that.

    We knew we weren't going to pay him (we said as much) and we've been not overly bothered about negotiations. Those signings were basically replacements, when do we ever sign players early?

    I suspected as much all along and now we have proof, the way the club has been in recent years there's was no other scenario.

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    One thing has to change at the club WENGER !!!!!!!!!!

    Sack this fool and at least we will have to move forward, not sideways 5 yards!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Valmer View Post
    If reports are to be believed, Walcott could be next to declare his intention to leave or not sign a new contract as a committed RVP was central to his negotiations.
    Could be right, maybe Giroud is Walcott's replacement.

    2 in 2 out, would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    We signed them knowing he was on his way, I'm convinced of that.

    We knew we weren't going to pay him (we said as much) and we've been not overly bothered about negotiations. Those signings were basically replacements, when do we ever sign players early?

    I suspected as much all along and now we have proof, the way the club has been in recent years there's was no other scenario.
    well its a catch 22 then.

    if we sign players then its to replace rvp as he's leaving, and if we dont, rvp leaves because we dont share the same vision.

    how can we win?

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    Although there's irritation at us losing another first team player, I think RVP was on the decline anyway, as his pathetic performances in the Euros showed. Football wise it's not that big a deal to lose him tbh. He may say that "I want to win trophies", and while I agree that our lack of ambition doesn't make it easy to keep players or bring in top quality ones, it has to be said that RVP shares a lot of responsibility for our lack of trophies, and to act as if he's separate from that shows what a low grade wanker he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I reckon he loves Arsenal, he's always shown signs that he does.

    When a player who loves the club (much like Cesc did) and still leaves you know there's a problem, this is a rational decision based on his circumstances and wanting to achieve something in his career and it's fair enough he's entitled to not re-sign a contract.

    If you want players to sign you have to convince them that you're serious about winning, we've shown over the years we're not.
    I don't blame him for wanting to leave but I find the statement lame.

    Billy Big Bollocks and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    well its a catch 22 then.

    if we sign players then its to replace rvp as he's leaving, and if we dont, rvp leaves because we dont share the same vision.

    how can we win?
    Get players to sign contracts before they have one year left would be a good start.

    So would actually showing we're serious about winning and not being so proud of being 4th every year. The whole way the club is at the moment is wrong, we reward failure and are proud of it.

    We've got a losers mentality and that's the reason I sometimes taint Wenger as a loser, he seems content with losing.
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