Definite contact and penalty.
Kos has learnt nothing from the villa game where he did the same thing and that was a stone Waller as well.
Time for Verm to come back in?
Definite contact and penalty.
Kos has learnt nothing from the villa game where he did the same thing and that was a stone Waller as well.
Time for Verm to come back in?
They slowed down and then started running when Altidore had taken the shot. Why should Sagna be sent off if a) the ref had blown for a free kick well before it ever became a clear chance for Altidore or b) Sagna wouldn't have been the last man if advantage had been played because Koscielny and Gibbs would have gotten there without the whistle stopping them?
By virtue of these posts, we are now talking about Manchester United, yes.
I do wish you're this passionate and militant in your desire to educate people on the referee's apparent mistake the next time it adversely affects Arsenal.
I didn't notice them slowing down (I really don't think they did), but it's neither he nor there. As for Sagna, well he stopped a goalscoring chance, which it was and that's a straight red, he was the last man, noone would have got to him there just wasn't enough time, even if they were quicker than Usain Bolt.
Were are now yes, but they have nothing to do with our game, should we go round every ground in the country and point out mistakes as well?
I'm not passionate, I like to think I'm fair and I can see Sunderland's point of view without being totally biased about what happened. The dive may have been a dive but I can't tell from the angles they showed, the goal they scored was much clearly as there was nothing obstructing it, in my eyes, it was either a red or a goal, personally think the ref should have played the advantage (that's what you usually do and then bring it back if it doesn't work out).
I thought there were some tackles which should have been punished from Sunderland but weren't, by the Korean guy I think. We got the win and deserved it IMO, but I'm not going to make stuff up either.
Incidentally you do realise the person you chose to agree with is as biased as they come, if he was ref we'd have 12 penalties a match, the opposition would be down to 8 men and shots over the bar would count as 2 goals.
Last edited by Özim; 15-09-2013 at 12:25 PM.
Pretty much this, except for the Verm part.
We need a proper centre back in.
On another note, wtf are people going on about that we got lucky? Exactly how? We dominated those cunts for large portions of the game bar a few moments in the 2nd half when we allowed them to run a bit riot.
Game should have been well over by the halftime whistle, and even if they were allowed that equalizing goal, that doesn't mean we wouldn't have gone on to win just the same, does it?
And for the last time, the ref got the call right. He had long blown for the foul before any advantage was clear. If Altidore had heard the whistle, he'd have rightly stopped and allow for the freekick.
Good bloody win in the end, as we never have it easy up there. Hope we can have this luck follow us for remainder of season.
Referee should have done one of two things.
1 - let play continue which meant they'd have a goal and back to 2-2
Or
2 - send Sagna off once the whistle was blown leaving us with 10 men away from home and knowing our mentality, we'd have crumbled.
We got lucky. Atkinson saved us. Best referee out there.
Yes we did, but we missed our chances. It doesn't matter if you have 95% of the possession and 50 chances if you miss them all and the opposition get 1 chance and score you still lose.
We deserved to win, but your point about how much we dominated is invalid as we didn't take those chances we created.