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    Ok LDG, it's kind of getting blurred what we agree/disagree on, so I'm just going to put it out there what I blame Wenger for.

    Like I said earlier, under Arsene Wenger I believe we have always had players capable of winning the league, but I honestly don't believe we have a top coach capable of winning anything with these caliber of players. If confused let me put it to you like this, in all the 4 competitions we compete in I always see our main opposition as the top 4 in the EPL. IMO we have not had a squad considerably better than any of theirs for a long time. Infact I believe our squad is usually weaker... but that doesn't change the fact that we have players capable of winning the league seeing as we nominally we compete against 15 other weaker clubs, or even a cup if the other big 4 have been knocked out by someone else. So with the set of players Wenger has chosen to surround himself with and me not rating him as a coach, I don't think we could or will ever win anything with him around. A reason I want him out ASAP.

    Now though I rate him as a poor top coach (I mean this is a man that wasn't able to beat Mourinho in one competitive game), are you suggesting I rate him so poorly that I do not think he would win a single competition with the likes of Messi or Ronaldo around- if I did, that would just be disrespectful and unfair of me as a fan of the game.

    So simply put, I blame the manager for not having the kind of players that he can effectively use to win a trophy. I blame the manager for consistently overrating his abilities and putting unnecessary self-imposed limitations on the quality of his team. I blame the manager for not trying hard enough and doing everything in his managerial capacity to compete and compete to win , which every top manger in the game does.

    Now lets say AW had always done everything I blamed him for- got players in that would enable him to win (no matter the cost) and competed so intensely that he jeopardized all our resources and long term stability- lets say we'd won trophies or didn't- and then we got into a precarious financial position where the long-term future of the club was threatened, guess who I would blame for allowing that to happen, the board.

    It's the simple theory of checks and balances, separation of powers or the tug of war that must exist in top clubs, big corproate organisations and governments all over the world to ensure they push on. Our problem in Arsenal is that the separation does not exist anymore, it was murdered- and I blame the two sole beneficiaries of this act, AW and this geriatric board; and unfortunately a lot of goonerdom for not putting up a fight.
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    if i read right from blogs around and tweets from people at the meeting, if we dont get champions league, we fall foul of FFP rules as we are making a loss? now if thats right then thats disgusting, one because if we are getting punished and city are ok then there is something very wrong in football to allow that but two and more importantly, what the fuck are the board doing? how they can they spout all this bullshit about our finances yet allow this to happen if we dont get CL football.


    again this is just what i read and think i understand, i could be wrong but it was what was being suggested.

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    Despite this being a rare opportunity to post one of my favorite quotes, it adequately explains why Switzerland are yet to win the world cup or diddly squat

    In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced
    Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. ”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    if i read right from blogs around and tweets from people at the meeting, if we dont get champions league, we fall foul of FFP rules as we are making a loss? now if thats right then thats disgusting, one because if we are getting punished and city are ok then there is something very wrong in football to allow that but two and more importantly, what the fuck are the board doing? how they can they spout all this bullshit about our finances yet allow this to happen if we dont get CL football.


    again this is just what i read and think i understand, i could be wrong but it was what was being suggested.
    I haven't read up that much on them but I'm guessing we'd only fall foul if we started making losses and kept. our wage bill what UEFA would consider artificially to high i.e. not proportionate to either revenue or profit ( not sure what benchmark Uefa is using). Hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    if i read right from blogs around and tweets from people at the meeting, if we dont get champions league, we fall foul of FFP rules as we are making a loss? now if thats right then thats disgusting, one because if we are getting punished and city are ok then there is something very wrong in football to allow that but two and more importantly, what the fuck are the board doing? how they can they spout all this bullshit about our finances yet allow this to happen if we dont get CL football.


    again this is just what i read and think i understand, i could be wrong but it was what was being suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    A drunk once threatened to punch me at the train station in Reading
    Because you tried to steal my shopping cart full of cans which it had taken me weeks to collect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    Anyway ignoring "dat shizzle" does anyone actually expect anything to change at the club?
    Yes. Denilson will come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Innit.

    And get some T-shirts made.
    The T-shirts could work. Especially wet ones for the women. At least it would be some entertainment, in most cases. I guess moose wouldn't be allowed in on that day, which is fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Project youth was an exercise that only served to line the pockets of the board build the stadium.
    Please stick with the approved story.
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    Bloody politics. No wonder no attention is paid to on-the-field matters.

    http://angryofislington.com/2012/02/...olding-take-2/

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