Luis Suarez thread

[Cripps_orig]

The fact that you keep bringing up Adams and Merson just makes it worse. You are defending him and stop trying to downplay it and make out as if it was nothing.

If you want to make a case for him joining the club, the football speaks for itself. He's a great player and that's all you need to argue. Don't give me this shit about Adams or play it like the public are being too sensitive.

Some people are against getting Suarez cos they think he's a racist. He's not obviously. As for Adams and Merson which you originally brought up by the way, I'm just trying to make the point that if people are against Suarez coming here, what was the reaction to Adams and Merson cos what they did was far worse? Doubt they wanted them to fuck off. It's hypocrisy.

For me personally, Suarezs talent n the pitch comes before anything and we need him

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

This is like our RVP situation. I'm just waiting for the statement...

Selling our best player to a rival who right now is aiming for the same thing [you can say the title, but it's top 4 really] and who will improve you no end.

And before you laugh at the "rival" part, in the last 3 seasons we've finished closer to you than you have to United, so it's not as farfetched a comparison.

It'd certainly be a step up for him financially as well as footballistically, but, and don't take this the wrong way, I'm not sure it is enough of a step up given he's coming into the prime of his career. Unless he's already tried and failed to entice bigger clubs ie: Madrid, it just seems an odd choice. Not to mention given the bullshit excuses about wanting to leave the country, and before getting to how odd it is for you as a club.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Wenger buys cheap unheard of nobodies from France, there's a big difference. This guy is neither cheap, nor unknown plus he's from Brazil not France.

You're the wum pal, going on about this ridiculous charade all the time, the stories you post about Suarez on here are just ridiculous a lot of the time.

When this all goes wrong as it invariably will, be prepared to disappear off with your tail between your legs like you should have when the Higuain thing went pearshaped...after all you said he was signed didn't you?

ill make a deal with you. if we dont get suarez, ill leave because i was wrong and wenger made me guliable etc. if we get him, you leave because you said wenger would never ever bid 40 million or indeed pay 40 million for a single player


and your arugment that he is from brazil and not france is just complete and utter bullshit. theirry henry was from france, julio baptista was from brazil. and price proves nothing, and he kind of is unknown given you hadnt heard much of him. defintion of unknown that

[Niall_Quinn]

Don't sulk and get childish because your argument has been debunked.

There is no point in trying to make out as if what he did was a minor or point to bigger issues in life. Trying to downplay it would be wrong and if the club took that approach it would be highly embarrassing. It would be a mistake to do what Liverpool did.

The best way to deal with racism and ignorance in general is integration so I'm not suggesting we ostracise him from the club. You can't ignore it but don't go one better by trying to sugarcoat it as small 'tiff'. That's corrupt and the sort of thing Blatter has been doing for far too long.

You know all that stuff you just said? All created by you, nowhere do you see any of that coming from me. I didn't say it was minor, I responded to your criticism of Arsenal fans - who by your measure are hypocrites because they want Suarez at the club. All I was saying is it's a little bit massively hypocritical of you to berate them while managing to miss almost 100% of the problems yourself in favour of focusing in on an issue that has been highlighted and dealt with. Admittedly you finally addressed this by suggesting all that sort of stuff was me talking shit. In some ways you could say your downplayed, whitewashed, sugar coated the big picture, which is not to say the little picture hasn't got some significance. Hence the toothpaste thing (and I meant what I said about teeth). Then you suggested we all move on by ignoring everything bar the football, or at least you urged the fans you had previously blasted to brush aside everything bar the fact Suarez has football talent. This again perked my suspicion you were on some sort of Huttonesque mission to stick a pencil in both your eyes to avoid witnessing the inevitable outcome of your own argument.

I think your idea of integrating racists into the team for their own good is an excellent way forward. If we can stamp football out of racism, or even do it the other way around, I'm all for it.

[Niall_Quinn]

have you ever heard of a telephone?

No

[Niall_Quinn]

business is done better face to face

Or with a gun.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger buys cheap unheard of nobodies from France, there's a big difference. This guy is neither cheap, nor unknown plus he's from Brazil not France.

You're the wum pal, going on about this ridiculous charade all the time, the stories you post about Suarez on here are just ridiculous a lot of the time.

When this all goes wrong as it invariably will, be prepared to disappear off with your tail between your legs like you should have when the Higuain thing went pearshaped...after all you said he was signed didn't you?

Well you must admit if this crazy Suarez thing comes off the all those claims of Wenger being afraid to spend money are shot down.

[Özim]

ill make a deal with you. if we dont get suarez, ill leave because i was wrong and wenger made me guliable etc. if we get him, you leave because you said wenger would never ever bid 40 million or indeed pay 40 million for a single player


and your arugment that he is from brazil and not france is just complete and utter bullshit. theirry henry was from france, julio baptista was from brazil. and price proves nothing, and he kind of is unknown given you hadnt heard much of him. defintion of unknown that

Leave?

I'm not leaving anything, plus I don't want you to leave, you give me a reason to post with your stories!

The point is you post this sensationalist BS all the time and it never f*cking happens, you've already done it this summer but never seem to learn. Suarez isn't coming I said Wenger will never buy a 40 million pound player and he won't because this deal will go pearshaped.

If you think this will happen more fool you.

You going back to signings from a decade ago, Henry wasn't unknown at all he was a big name after the World Cup. As for Baps, yeah not a typical Brazilian as I said, he had no skill. The best Brazilians are the skillful ones.

[Özim]

Well you must admit if this crazy Suarez thing comes off the all those claims of Wenger being afraid to spend money are shot down.

Yeah it will, funnily enough I'm not worried, are you?

The only difference between this summer and previous ones if we came out and said we have big money, so now the press have got that between their teeth and we can use that to our advantage, other than that it's just the same.

[Niall_Quinn]

This is like our RVP situation. I'm just waiting for the statement...

Selling our best player to a rival who right now is aiming for the same thing [you can say the title, but it's top 4 really] and who will improve you no end.

And before you laugh at the "rival" part, in the last 3 seasons we've finished closer to you than you have to United, so it's not as farfetched a comparison.

It'd certainly be a step up for him financially as well as footballistically, but, and don't take this the wrong way, I'm not sure it is enough of a step up given he's coming into the prime of his career. Unless he's already tried and failed to entice bigger clubs ie: Madrid, it just seems an odd choice. Not to mention given the bullshit excuses about wanting to leave the country, and before getting to how odd it is for you as a club.

Two things. If you demand anything from £40,000,002 up the deal will be off anyway. And this could definitely be a stepping stone for Suarez. If he wants Madrid then a season in the CL with us might be just the ticket. Could even be why we are touting such huge figures, because we could make even more next year.

In the end though this will be about what Liverpool want. If you don't want to sell you don't have to sell.