A much deserved and fitting headline for 'The Specialist in Failure'Originally Posted by Munchies
A much deserved and fitting headline for 'The Specialist in Failure'
Of course. It's worrying that I look forward to England games more than Arsenal games these days!
What is there to say that hasn't been said before. This is a man who so infinitely believes in his methods that even when they don't work time and tine again he doesn't waver and continues to repeat ad infinitum. just so that when it perchance works in in 1000 times he can turn round and say "Aha"!. You can see that he simply plays the boys who never raise a word at the club, plays them over and over and again until they break down. Anyone who questions what we can all see isn't working gets ostracised. The man is a delusionist with a less than tentative grasp on reality. Bottom line is Wenger wont get tired. Question is when will we the fans tire of this debacle. Forget the tourists waiting in line to fill the stadium seats, we need the fans groups to come on side and organise to bring this charade to end
The season ticket base is so high that it doesn't take much additional sales to make the stadium look relatively full. And it isn't
If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.
While the money keeps rolling in there is no incentive for the board to change anything.
Only way to bring about change is to hit 'em where it hurts. For those with season tickets it's too late for that of course, they've paid up for the season.
And there are so many of those it's difficult to do anything this season.
Just don't renew though. Those without season tickets, stop going. Buy fake orange shirts rather than the real ones (or don't buy one at all).
What charade? You're going to need to be a lot more specific. Fans aren't going to organise behind claims Wenger is a "delusionist". Specifics will be required. You already know he brushes off any questioning of his tactics by stating he's managed a thousand more games than anyone else. He'll slap a guy like Merson around, somebody who has a voice. It's unlikely he'll pay a blind bit of notice to a few fans calling him names. I haven't yet seen a reasoned argument that sets out the major failings that can be pinned on Wenger, on a match by match, formation by formation, tactics by tactics, player by player, substitution by substitution, basis. That's how you pin him down. Specifics. A clear demonstration of errors and repeated errors. A history of the failings in the transfer market - with details. An analysis of where other clubs and managers are succeeding where Wenger has failed. Calling him names, waving banners, shouting and stamping, that's all a waste of effort.
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NQ. Now you have me confused. Dunno if you're messing with, me or asking a real question? Are you happy with what you are seeing on the pitch or not?.Given our club resources are we doing as best as we can or far, far less?. A charade is what we have. A scam operation with sporting failure marketed as guarded success
A thousand games in charge and the chump gets tactically out done by a guy that’s only managed 31 games.You already know he brushes off any questioning of his tactics by stating he's managed a thousand more games than anyone else. He'll slap a guy like Merson around, somebody who has a voice.I can only wish someone had the wit and balls to throw that fact out to him if he tries to pull that smug ‘experience’ card again.
I think he’d pay attention to fan protest. Also, people need to stop going to games. A drop in attendance, media backlash and fan backlash is way too much for anyone to ignore.
Very serious. The tactics, preparation, in-game management, substitutions, post game analysis, player rotation, fitness and injuries, transfer dealings, are all sub-standard and the manager isn't close to making the most of the players and resources at his disposal. I'm pretty sure we all agree on that much by this stage.
But take the Merson incident. Merson getting on TV and shouting, "clueless, clueless", isn't going to do a damn thing except put Wenger on the defensive and give him an easy out where he can claim he works day to day with the team, he's got all the experience, he knows what he's doing and nobody else is qualified to judge him. And that's what exactly what happened. Why didn't Merson go into the specifics? Name names, give examples of the "clueless" tactics over time. So far the media has settled on a couple of instances of our midfield pushed up and leaving the defence exposed when we were in a winning position. That's a start. But a couple of instances isn't going to shift Wenger out of his trench. Fans who really want to highlight the problems need to build a proper case, with proper and extensive evidence. Put that in front of him, a case spanning several seasons and highlighting the same mistakes and misjudgements happening time and time again (as is claimed) and that's not so easy to brush aside. If it's true that Wenger is clueless and he's lot the plot tactically then it needs to be spelled out, it's no good just calling him names.
Get that Claude bloke to do it. What's the use of him ranting on on Arsenal TV? Either he wants to be a Z-list celeb or he wants to do something constructive to get his points across and to try to encourage real change. Wenger is here until 2017 as things stand. The board is certainly not going to intervene and make changes. They have stated this as clearly as it is possible to state it. We're good enough to grab 4th every season and maybe go on a cup run. The money is pouring in. One of the big objections about money not being spent in the transfer windows has been addressed. If anything, Wenger is more secure than ever. It's going to take some serious work conducted by serious fans to demonstrate the key problems that most perceive as holding the club back. Boycotts are useless when there's a long queue waiting to snap up tickets. Banners and shouting and all that crap just make us look stupid in the eyes of fans who would love their club to be 4th or on the CL or winning a cup. fans slagging Wenger on the Internet has no effect at all. The media are lazy bastards who will work with the theme of the day but will never dig deep.
If the fans really want to shift Wenger or force his hand then they need to do some work. That's my point. Don't give him an easy out like Merson just did. Lay down a case that the media will seize upon as their own (an easy win for the lazy bastards) and that other fans can get behind and something Wenger can't just brush under the carpet. That's the only way you'll see him walk before 2017.
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I think the point is that these street protests tend not to achieve anything because you can be easily dismissed as ungrateful malcontents
The fact remains there isn't a unified voice, almost everyone on this board thinks Wenger isn't the man to take us forward and the majority of those want him sacked. I'm not convinced this represents the majority of those who go to games week in week out, for example we are not seeing the kind of visceral reaction that Newcastle fans showed against Pardew.
I don't believe the board can be convinced by the fans to sack Wenger, though I do believe it could convince Wenger to walk. He was taken aback by the fan reaction to Aston Villa defeat last season, and I think a point could be reached where he decides its not worth his while anymore.
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