Wait and see?
Wait and see?
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What else can we do?
Good job all. Let it all out now because GW won’t survive another 2 years.
Let's not forget this is the very cup Wenger devalued by fielding weakened teams, it's a nice cup to parade around but it's not what it use to be thanks in no small part to Wenger. Great game and very good performance but quite frankly it's just glossing over the cracks, we've failed this season in spectacular fashion and a 2nd tier trophy no top club is really that concerned about at the start of the season isn't going to change that.Originally Posted by Letters
We have literally just won the FA Cup, our 3rd in 4 years. So no, not really. We surely can't be doing EVERYTHING wrong. It's 3 more trophies than Spurs have won in that time.
Where we are failing is to compete in the biggest competitions which, with our resources isn't good enough.
My hope for this summer is that they surely realise that we have to sign some more proper quality and keep most of the the squad we have together. If they let Sanchez or Ozil and/or don't sign some proper quality then it will be another frustrating season next year. But the season has barely finished, even I didn't want Wenger to stay but he has and there's nothing we can do about that so let's at least see what he's going to do in the transfer window this year. All clubs sign nothing players as well as bigger ones in every transfer window, that is not something unique to Arsenal. If that's all we do then I'll be facepalming too but the transfer window has barely opened yet.
I find it ironic that Wenger is celebrating the cup as if it's the holy grail when he placed little or no value on it a few years back, you can't have it both ways.
I don't have any hope for the summer, Wenger is in charge, he's proved he never learns, never changes and we're already seeing from that free transfer and this kid from Belgium that nothing has changed, we're still behaving the same way, fine it may be the start of the summer but the fact is we do it every summer and Wenger has at no point shown any indication he's willing to change, in fact quite the opposite, he's saying we don't need to change and that everyone else are morons who don't know anything essentially.
Don't be fooled, nothing has changed and nothing will until the day Wenger is no longer here, we'll be talking about the same thing at the end of the window, at the end of the season, the same failures and about the collapses and trashings, this is proven, if it hasn't changed in 12+ years it won't change now.
Wait. You think Wenger has devalued it? You really do reach to find things to blame him for, you'll be blaming him for the housing crisis next.
You're giving Wenger far too much "credit" if you think he is responsible for devaluing it, even partly. Even if it was him who started to field weakened teams (was he?), that doesn't mean other teams had to follow suit.
The competition has been devalued generally because of the rise of the CL, nothing to do with Wenger.
All the bigger clubs field weakened teams now. Actually even Southampton did against us this season. These days all the PL clubs have pretty big squads and use them to prioritise accordingly. But if "no top club" is concerned about it then it's funny that top clubs keep winning it. Wigan and Portsmouth were rare exceptions, every other year going back 30 years it's a top club winning it. It's not the top priority for the biggest clubs and should not be the limit of our ambitions but it's still a pretty big deal.
How is he celebrating the Cup as if it's the Holy Grail? He was celebrating, all the players were celebrating too. Bit embarrassing if they'd been doing that for the Emirates Cup but the FA Cup is still the biggest domestic cup in football.
It doesn't paper over the cracks at all, it's nice to finish a bad season with a trophy, nice to regain the club record and I'm pleased for Wenger that he now holds the individual record. But the failure in the CL and PL is damning. It would have been a good time for him to leave and I wish he had but he didn't and there's nothing we can do about that. I don't have that much hope for the summer either but let's wait and see what happens. What else can we do? As I said in every season every club makes a mix of signings in the transfer window, some big, some not. So no, the current activity, or lack thereof, doesn't show anything.
Even if we agree that things are likely to be the same this transfer window and therefore next season, what exactly are we supposed to do about that?
I didn't say he was the only one, but he certainly played his part, so to be hailed as a great achievement after all that is a bit rich for me, nice cup win but that's all,, certainly not enough to get him a new contract at other big clubs. I also said at the beginning of the season it isn't a priority for big clubs, they'd happily sacrifice the FA Cup if it meant they had a better chance of winning the other trophies that much is clear.
It does to some extent, had he lost he'd have been under far more scrutiny, I think the cup win made it easy to sign the new contract and some people whilst revelling in the cup win maybe didn't feel as bad about signing on after all, the fact is this season is a failure, even by Wengers own criteria because the FA cup (this conveniently seems to have changed now) it's a failure as he hasn't achieved his primary goal of qualifying for the CL.
I don't trust him, I'd go as far as saying he's incompetent in the transfer market, last summer he spent what around 100 million on a player he hardly played, a relatively low profile CB he had to overpay fordue to the fact he left his dealings so late (who hasn't been great lets be honest) and a relatively low profile midfielder who can't tackle to fill the DM role (odd choice) who again hasn't really worked out thus far.
That money could have been spent so much better, trouble is he always wants to be the person to discover the talent and that rarely happens nowadays and whats more we're paying a lot of mney for that privilege now, whilst many of his previous buys were also rubbish at leas thtey didn't cost the earth. If you're going to spend a lot of money, spend it on someone established at least.
So yeah, we know what we're going to get with him, either cheap buys or players that noone would have realistically identified as logical signings, oh and a trasnfer winddow that drags on until the final few minutes of it being open, no real excitement, no buzz, it's all dull, repetitive and predictable like the man himself.
He must be the only one who can't see how boring he's made things for the fans now, he seems to see some sort of magical football and players who are 50 times better than they appear to everyone else, he even had the audacity to cite mental strength and spirit at the tail end of the season, this despite another collapse on a monumental scale when we were still in with a chance of winning something meaningful.....when it matters the team has neither of the qualities he claims it has.
Aubameyang joining PSG for 61mill.
Serious clubs getting their business done quickly. Good news for us. The quicker they move the sooner we'll be able to see what's been left on the shelf and in the bin and take our pick.
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Not true, we're signing the young Henry.
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
I forgot about that. I meant apart from signing Mbappe.
Wenger has a fresh take on this:
I hope this isn't a massive change just for the sake of change. We need to be careful what we wish for.We will work very hard to find the additions of top, top quality. I believe that our squad is very strong and we will only look for top-class people who can strengthen our team now. The basis is there so we need the additions who will make a real difference.
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He says the same thing every year. 'We are only one or two players away!'. He bought Xhaka, Mustafi and Perez for about £80 million and we were even worse than last year. We regressed after spending 80 fucking million pounds!
The players we buy are irrelevant. We won't amount to anything with this idiot in charge.
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