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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I would say though, it’s not just about mental toughness it’s about being able to piss through the eye of a needle. Defences don’t tire as much in the premier league. And teams are more likely to sit with 11 men behind the ball to defend a lead. From what I saw of Leverkusen they were a good counter attacking team and they often got teams trying to push up to kill them off. Plus I find the Bundesliga a much more open league
    That's my biggest issue with this team.

    All we hear throughout the season with whatever opposition we face, is 'this team is tough to break down, Arsenal need to find a way' - rubbish! it's almost always entirely of our own making.

    We never counter attack enough or when the opportunity arises. 9/10 we are busy passing the ball around midfield and the back 4 looking for a chance to pass out to the wings, so the ball can be crossed in. by that time the whole team has got back into position and we are faced with 11 men behind the ball again.

    If we played a bit more counter attacking football in between being solid in defence, we would score more goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    I heard an interesting theory that some lower table teams don't even bother really trying to beat Citeh, they just try to keep the score down and move on, so Citeh sometimes can get an easier ride, I can see some logic in that tbh, why knock yourself out against Citeh when you've got Ipswich in the following game and all you're trying to do is avoid relegation?
    I had the same theory.

    Teams seem to shit their pants when they play City, so don't really put the effort in. Then when they play us they go hell for leather.

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    Some reports this morning suggest that we are no longer looking for a striker.

    That would be a mistake.

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    Merino medical has been booked supposedly, should be done by the end of this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    That's my biggest issue with this team.

    All we hear throughout the season with whatever opposition we face, is 'this team is tough to break down, Arsenal need to find a way' - rubbish! it's almost always entirely of our own making.

    We never counter attack enough or when the opportunity arises. 9/10 we are busy passing the ball around midfield and the back 4 looking for a chance to pass out to the wings, so the ball can be crossed in. by that time the whole team has got back into position and we are faced with 11 men behind the ball again.

    If we played a bit more counter attacking football in between being solid in defence, we would score more goals.
    I agree to the extent at which if a team is playing extremely defensively, the obligation is on us to work out a way of breaking through that defence…there’s no point just complaining that a mid table team comes to the Emirates and sticks eleven behind the ball…if I was the coach of a mid table side that’s exactly what I’d do.

    As to the whole counter attacking argument, well I’d say it depends who we are playing. Wolves for example did have a fifteen minute period where they did go for us, but on the whole they didn’t change tact and become massively more adventurous I think errors were creeping into our game (sloppy passes from Gabriel, Saliba and Partey)


    Sometimes it’s not that you can launch a counter attack because even when a team is coming forward, they’ve left enough players back to cover against a counter attack. Top teams like Liverpool and Man City usually have good recovery ability so they don’t find themselves vulnerable to the counter even when they commit men forward, but I do think if you look at the games at both anfield and the Etihad we didn’t take advantage of the break opportunities we did have.


    It’s not like we never do it, there was a few goals we scored on the break last season. But sometimes yeah it feels like we don’t exploit the situation as much as we could

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I agree to the extent at which if a team is playing extremely defensively, the obligation is on us to work out a way of breaking through that defence…there’s no point just complaining that a mid table team comes to the Emirates and sticks eleven behind the ball…if I was the coach of a mid table side that’s exactly what I’d do.

    As to the whole counter attacking argument, well I’d say it depends who we are playing. Wolves for example did have a fifteen minute period where they did go for us, but on the whole they didn’t change tact and become massively more adventurous I think errors were creeping into our game (sloppy passes from Gabriel, Saliba and Partey)


    Sometimes it’s not that you can launch a counter attack because even when a team is coming forward, they’ve left enough players back to cover against a counter attack. Top teams like Liverpool and Man City usually have good recovery ability so they don’t find themselves vulnerable to the counter even when they commit men forward, but I do think if you look at the games at both anfield and the Etihad we didn’t take advantage of the break opportunities we did have.


    It’s not like we never do it, there was a few goals we scored on the break last season. But sometimes yeah it feels like we don’t exploit the situation as much as we could
    Agreed.

    It's more that we don't exploit the counter attack most of the times it is available.

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    Forest are interested in Eddie and we’ve apparently rejected a 25m bid. Ornstein says we’re holding out for 30-35m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Forest are interested in Eddie and we’ve apparently rejected a 25m bid. Ornstein says we’re holding out for 30-35m.
    We just need to get him off our books ASAP.

    I mean it's almost certain that we've failed in this transfer window yet again...but I guess winning the transfer window (like Chelsea has been doing for ages) doesn't guarantee anything does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    We just need to get him off our books ASAP.

    I mean it's almost certain that we've failed in this transfer window yet again...but I guess winning the transfer window (like Chelsea has been doing for ages) doesn't guarantee anything does it.
    Im not even sure it’s what I’d call winning. Players on ridiculously long contracts who if they don’t cut the mustard they’ll never be able to get rid of. Even with the Amortisation they will start to fall afoul of FSR. And as you note it’s not done anything for them on the pitch, arguably if anything it’s hurting them.

    30-35 million is far in excess in my view of what Nketiah is worth, but it’s been obvious to me for some time that in order to spend any significant amount we would have to sell players and make money back for them.

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    Wolves have also offered to loan Ramsdale with the clause of a permanent transfer next year. I’m not sure if it’s worth the risk of losing him without a reasonable second choice keeper in the squad. Unless they pay up for a permanent deal now.

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