My bad, we were level with Leicester, 3 points clear of City on New Years Day. For me it's totally unacceptable to have fallen so far behind? Do you agree?Originally Posted by Letters
No we weren't!
My bad, we were level with Leicester, 3 points clear of City on New Years Day. For me it's totally unacceptable to have fallen so far behind? Do you agree?No we weren't!
Last edited by selassie; 11-04-2016 at 10:43 AM.
I think the point is that this season has been Wenger's biggest fuck up yet.
Yep, I'm shocked some on here seem to think it's not his biggest fuck up.
We were, fleetingly, 2 points clear.
IMO the moment I snapped was the run after Valentine's Day. We'd been wobbling but the win over Leicester that day put us 2 points behind them.
Then we lost to an embarrassingly depleted ManYoo side and then lost to Swansea at home
So yes, that is unacceptable and that's why I think Wenger should go. But that doesn't mean I think EVERY SINGLE THING he does or says it wrong or ridiculous. But he's clearly not going to push us on any further so we need to find someone who can.
It really isn't though, it's default Wenger....who we finish behind is totally irrelevant, whether it big spending city or Chelsea....or a complete outlier in Leicester....the same mistakes are made, the collapses happen at the same time.....so the fact that our usual rivals have fallen by the wayside is irrelevant.
All it proves is that it doesn't matter who finishes above us, the reason we haven't finished any higher than third since 2005 is because the manager is not capable of it.
I think it's all effective. It hits the pockets whilst also creating awareness. If you choose not to go to games it's something but if you choose to go but won't buy merchandise or even throw up a banner or boo after a game it's something other than just saying nothing at all.
There are a lot of fuck-ups to choose from, so maybe some people are lost in a sea of fuck-ups and can't make a concrete judgement. Rivalry with the spuds does seem a bit small time, or spudish, but finishing below that lot really does mark a significant downturn in the club's fortunes. This during a period where we're supposed to be enjoying the new financial strength that bloody stadium move was, allegedly, designed to provide. None of the people running this club have anywhere to hide. This is a massive, epic, fuck-up.
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The ideal scenario is for him to leave at the end of the season. I still think he could do that with his head held fairly high. As much as a balls up as this season has been, he won us a couple of cups recently, he'd leave us with a good squad and money in the bank to add to it where needed. I just hope he doesn't stay till things get really ugly although I fear he will.
What's likely to happen is the divide in the fan base will deepen and we'll end up fighting each other more than we fight Wenger and the board. I bet we'll see a fightback from the Wenger crowd. They'll have a whole summer to come up with a bunch of new excuses and a renewed defence. This will piss off the Wenger out crowd so much it will all turn vicious. Already seeing it around the interweb. We've seen the media make up stories about fans physically fighting. They might not need to invent stuff next season.
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That Moh guy on AFTV makes me laugh, he was saying it's all about making inroads we've gained a point and if both teams lose on Sunday it's a point gained, it followed that both teams won on Sunday and we fell further behind.
Ty is funny too he just wants Wenger here regardless of what happens.
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