Top post.Originally Posted by Champagne Charlie
Top post.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
We're already sending out the wrong message by letting our star players go every year. Players are looking at the wages their rivals are earning and asking to be paid a similar amount. The system is already crumbling so giving in what make a blind bit of difference.
Whilst that may be true, what do other clubs do?
Rooney got a massive payrise does that mean every other Man U player will be doing the same as him?
Do you really believe this though?
I mean do we really need to sell to buy?
Last edited by selassie; 18-07-2011 at 12:05 PM.
No this will only create a problem if we allow our players to run down their contracts. For whatever reason we've left ourselves short with Nasri...more often than not we tie our players down to long contracts with healthy wages, that's why we can't shift dross like Bendy, Denilson & Eboue because nobody else would pay them anything near to the wages we pay them.
We can't have it both ways, we either pay our stars top wages or risk losing them. Honestly...we're in no position to dictate wages to our star performers when we don't win anything or invest much money in the team.
Depends on how much we'd need to spend to replace either of them I guess. For a top quality replacement we're looking at 15-25mil. I don't think we have that kind of disposable cash should Barca not come in with the required amount for Cesc.
If we sold Nasri, then we'd have circa 20mil, but I think Wenger probably assumes that losing both is worst case senario, and only then would he have to push the boat out.
If one of them stays, then I would put money on there being a 10-15 mil replacement in to ease in. But until we know for definite, we're holding fire by the looks of things.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
The thing with Rooney is he's proven his quality season after season for Man U and has been a key player in league and champions league winning teams. Nasri hasn't even come close to that level or that consistancy so I'm not sure the comparison works. For example, if Berbatov demanded he be the highest paid player at Man U after half a season of good form and half a season of doing fuck all, what do you think the likes of Rooney and Ferdinand would be doing? I'm pretty sure they'd be demanding another pay rise too.
Yeah, a lot players will look at their rivals and want that much money. But do you really think we're in a position to be offering a load of our players £150k a week? We simply can't afford to keep up with the likes of Chelsea and City when it comes to wages, just the same as we can't keep up with the transfer fees.
But how can you stop a player from running down a contract? You can't force them to sign. The only other option is to sell them, but then we'll be seen as a selling club and accused of never being able to hold on to our top players. I just think it's a very slippery slope to let the players dictate what wages they deserve.
Although I do agree that there is a fundamental problem with us paying the young, unproven players way too high wages based on "potential". It does make it increasingly hard to get them off your books. But then, if we do buckle to Nasri's wage demands and for the next two years he performs like he did in the second half of last season, then what's the biggest problem; Bendtner being shit on £50k or Nasri being shit on £100k?
Bendtner and Nasri are anything but shite footballers, they are quality players. The problem is the old man at the helm, he is almighty shite though.
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