Women's World Cup

[Mac76]

Have they, though? When you hear accounts of women who have suffered at the hands of genuine predators, the acts are almost always in private or subtle. They're always telling the victim that it's a secret and or threatening them with consequences if they tell - or telling them they won't be believed because of the power or status imbalance between the victim and perpetrator.
This really wasn't like that. Although I do take the point about the example he should be setting, and his failure to immediately show contrition and decision to double down strengthened the case for his sacking.

Sure, it's not usually in public, but even when they do it out of people's sight I wouldn't be surprised if they, as well as doing what you suggest, saying it was just in the heat of the moment

But yes, it really is all about the example it sets, if he doesn't get punished then it's basically a green light for any guy who wants to grab a girl and kiss her in public

[HCZ_Reborn]

well it is naive to think an old fart like Rubiales wouldn't simply be grabbing the opportunity to snog a young women in the knowledge (or so he thought) that he could get away with it.

people like him have traded off that 'caught up in the moment' BS for years

and again, sacking him's completely proportionate given his position as the head of women's football in Spain and the example he needs to set

oh and by the way if you want to talk about pressure being put on Hermoso, she says the pressure was all from the other side: "I have to state that I have been under constant pressure to come out with some sort of statement that would justify the acts of Mr Luis Rubiales."

How many people do you think were watching that match and the after award globally? The suggestion that it could have been premeditated makes absolutely no sense unless Rubiales has some kind of personality disorder that overrides any sense of good judgement. The whole point of unwanted sexual behaviour is that it tends to be surreptitious.


I’m going to call bollocks on that last statement, the amount of pressure from a media with the bit between its teeth meant that even if she had made a statement like that it would have made no difference. The baying mob wanted his head.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Sure, it's not usually in public, but even when they do it out of people's sight I wouldn't be surprised if they, as well as doing what you suggest, saying it was just in the heat of the moment

But yes, it really is all about the example it sets, if he doesn't get punished then it's basically a green light for any guy who wants to grab a girl and kiss her in public

So I agree partially, where I don’t agree is what the punishment. Change the scenario and a drunken office party and a guy kisses a girl because he’s misread the signs and she immediately pulls away and tells him “don’t ever do that again”. The bloke apologises and immediately feels guilt, shame and all the rest.

She complains to HR and they consider it a disciplinary offence because it happened on their premises, should that be a sacking offence?

There’s never been any prior inappropriate behaviour, these two colleagues have previously been on good terms, both are single and he’s just misunderstood.

Because from what you’re saying, it seems to be that context doesn’t matter because the easiest thing to do is to assume the worst motivation

[Niall_Quinn]

OMG, WTF is this all about? What the hell are you all going on about? What a surprise that the "drama" in women's football has nothing to do with football. Pages of bullshit. It's hilarious. How pussy whipped do you need to be before you get a prize?

Women's football. A contradiction.

Besides, the men play women's football now, so why do we need the women? And are we talking actual women, or would that be a micro-aggression against all the other creatures with tits who don't identify as women, or the blokes who want to get pregnant?

Jeez, what a clown world.

[WMUG]

This is not the behaviour of a healthy person.

[Mac76]

This is not the behaviour of a healthy person.

I tend to agree

[Letters]

This is not the behaviour of a healthy person.

Pff. What are you losers doing at 3;09am?
Being sober?
Sleeping?

[Mac76]

Pff. What are you losers doing at 3;09am?
Being sober?
Sleeping?

funnily enough i found myself awake at 3am this morning and while I struggled to immediately get back to sleep, going on GW and ranting in lunatic fashion just didn't occur to me...

[HCZ_Reborn]

funnily enough i found myself awake at 3am this morning and while I struggled to immediately get back to sleep, going on GW and ranting in lunatic fashion just didn't occur to me...

I woke at 4 (I ascribe the fact that I’m not the only one doing so to the heat) I saw NQ’s comments. Frankly I was offended that he couldn’t trouble himself to write more than a sentence and went back to sleep.

[HCZ_Reborn]

This is not the behaviour of a healthy person.

Look around you, do you see a lot of psychologically healthy people writing here?

We are all (including myself) predisposed to argue ourselves into a corner over a need to be right. There’s a few of us that spend far too much time on here because argument is a form of sport. And I suspect on top of that we are inclined towards online disinhibition…especially me.