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    Sigh. According to the German media (who admittedly know a lot less about German football than the eminent Daily Heinrich Himmler or the Guardian of Communism) the crowd was booing the decision to bring Ozil off as he was one of the better players on the night. So it's not really in-between at all, it's the polar opposite to the shit being peddled by the piggish British hacks. Spitting Image didn't cast them as swine on a whim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Personally, I'd suspect that the truth is somewhere in between - there may have been considerable disenchantment from the Germans with the whole team, but given his price tag, and evident lacklustre performance, it isn't hard to see how Ozil would be a focal point - in a similar way to our own Rooney. Put another way, if Ozil had turned in a proper shift then the crowd would have made sure not to boo when Ozil came off (as opposed to at the end of the game). The fact that Ozil failed to shine in a different environment does cause me some concern, though. People can say that he will only come good once he's had a season under his belt. Didn't work with our last most expensive signing though, did it?
    I can't imagine our crowed booing off one the best performers after a sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Sigh. According to the German media (who admittedly know a lot less about German football than the eminent Daily Heinrich Himmler or the Guardian of Communism) the crowd was booing the decision to bring Ozil off as he was one of the better players on the night. So it's not really in-between at all, it's the polar opposite to the shit being peddled by the piggish British hacks. Spitting Image didn't cast them as swine on a whim.
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...d-9173372.html

    Why is Bierhoff and Boateng under the impression that Ozil was singled out and why wasn't Gotze booed off as well?

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    First up Ozil is the German fans player of the year - again. So let's put a massive and much needed perspective shift on this to bring it back into reality and away from the fantasy picture the media is trying to paint.

    Second I couldn't care less what the Independent has to say on things and I wouldn't trust them an inch to report faithfully what anyone said to them on any subject, ever. I never give any credence to what the media has to say about anything. I read the headlines to figure what the latest media bullshit line is and then I read the comments to check how many people have been suckered - and it's usually very few unless the story is particularly emotional. And that's what I read in this particular case and I guess for most articles those comments will still be available. I'd much rather listen to the opinion of a regular person who is in football for the love of it rather than some cunt in the media who's in it to cause as big a stink as possible.

    Even so, there were some saying the booing was directed at him. But they go on to explain, it was not singling him out exclusively but was highlighting the growing and general discontent at the whole team and national set up. Ozil is their FAVOURITE PLAYER - hence the award. Booing him is the ultimate expression of discontent - at the team in general. If they can boo Ozil they can boo anyone. Even so, German fans couldn't give a fuck what Ozil is doing at Arsenal so there is zero connection. It's just the vile British media who have drawn a line between two disconnected and non-associated dots.

    Ever since we pulled off such a coup to sign him the media scum have been waiting for him to fall flat. From their ill-hidden and jealous remarks about "luxury" players to the pathetic manufactured bullshit about Utd turning their nose up at him in favour of Fellaini. I mean how ridiculous does it need to get before some people figure it out? Now a vigorous first season in the huff and puff league (which the media laughably calls the best in the world, so you can see just how finely tuned their judgement isn't) has seen a dip in Ozil's form and the media wolves are all over him. Drop him from Arsenal, drop him from Germany, he shouldn't be going to the World Cup, he's weak, he went for a kebab, there's nothing subtle about this. It's almost like a punishment beating for having picked the wrong club. Where were the British media calls for Torres to be dropped from the Spanish team? Or Shevchenko to be dropped from the Ukrainian team? What business is it of theirs? None at all, they just use it to add more fuel to their fire.

    Meanwhile some of our own fans are deliberately misinterpreting what is happening so they can grab another stick to beat Wenger with. Sad bastards. They are in full on temper-tantrum mode because they haven't got a shiny pot so they'll grasp at anything they can to dig a knife into the manager and the players. We all know who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    First up Ozil is the German fans player of the year - again. So let's put a massive and much needed perspective shift on this to bring it back into reality and away from the fantasy picture the media is trying to paint.

    Second I couldn't care less what the Independent has to say on things and I wouldn't trust them an inch to report faithfully what anyone said to them on any subject, ever. I never give any credence to what the media has to say about anything. I read the headlines to figure what the latest media bullshit line is and then I read the comments to check how many people have been suckered - and it's usually very few unless the story is particularly emotional. And that's what I read in this particular case and I guess for most articles those comments will still be available. I'd much rather listen to the opinion of a regular person who is in football for the love of it rather than some cunt in the media who's in it to cause as big a stink as possible.

    Even so, there were some saying the booing was directed at him. But they go on to explain, it was not singling him out exclusively but was highlighting the growing and general discontent at the whole team and national set up. Ozil is their FAVOURITE PLAYER - hence the award. Booing him is the ultimate expression of discontent - at the team in general. If they can boo Ozil they can boo anyone. Even so, German fans couldn't give a fuck what Ozil is doing at Arsenal so there is zero connection. It's just the vile British media who have drawn a line between two disconnected and non-associated dots.

    Ever since we pulled off such a coup to sign him the media scum have been waiting for him to fall flat. From their ill-hidden and jealous remarks about "luxury" players to the pathetic manufactured bullshit about Utd turning their nose up at him in favour of Fellaini. I mean how ridiculous does it need to get before some people figure it out? Now a vigorous first season in the huff and puff league (which the media laughably calls the best in the world, so you can see just how finely tuned their judgement isn't) has seen a dip in Ozil's form and the media wolves are all over him. Drop him from Arsenal, drop him from Germany, he shouldn't be going to the World Cup, he's weak, he went for a kebab, there's nothing subtle about this. It's almost like a punishment beating for having picked the wrong club. Where were the British media calls for Torres to be dropped from the Spanish team? Or Shevchenko to be dropped from the Ukrainian team? What business is it of theirs? None at all, they just use it to add more fuel to their fire.

    Meanwhile some of our own fans are deliberately misinterpreting what is happening so they can grab another stick to beat Wenger with. Sad bastards. They are in full on temper-tantrum mode because they haven't got a shiny pot so they'll grasp at anything they can to dig a knife into the manager and the players. We all know who they are.
    excellent post NQ!

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    It really isn't. The frustrating thing about this sort of debate is the complete denial that he was booed as if the media conjured up the event out of thin air. Complete paranoia from NQ. It's nothing personal against Ozil or Arsenal. They'll be all over him once he's on form and singing his praises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It really isn't. The frustrating thing about this sort of debate is the complete denial that he was booed as if the media conjured up the event out of thin air. Complete paranoia from NQ. It's nothing personal against Ozil or Arsenal. They'll be all over him once he's on form and singing his praises.
    no they won't. they are the ones who keep trying to tell us he is shit. the media are a complete joke and their anti arsenal agenda from some papers is just shocking. take today for example. the mirror had the following headline to an article "wenger FUMING at Agger after challenge" then in the article had no quotes from Wenger or even mentioned his name. then this morning in his press conference, the first time he has spoken about the challenge, he says it was an accident and didn't blame anyone.

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    The media HAS conjured it out of thin air. The idea underpinning their bullshit, that Ozil is in complete collapse mode across the board. This is a crisis of their making with no substance to it whatsoever. The whole team gets booed off and they focus in on Ozil. Why? Because it feeds their currently running bullshit related to what's happening at Arsenal. What I hate about these sick media bastards is their complete lack of human values. A total absence. They'll shit on anyone to sell their manufactured nonsense. From a well paid football star, okay hard to find too much sympathy there but it doesn't make the hacks any less cuntish, all the way through exploiting the death of abducted children. They'll do anything. They are among the worst vermin on the planet. I can't understand how anyone can side with them over anything ever.

    I don't know how shitty the media is in Germany. Probably shitty, but it can't possibly be as bad as here. We are looking at one of our main players being hounded daily by these cunts. I would think he'll have the character to handle it but how used to it is he? Has he ever seen shit like this before, this intensity of unbridled mendacity and destructive, throwaway fairy tale hackery? We should but we won't do something about these bastards. Burn their fucking house down or something. Write a stiff letter of protest to our MPs, or something queer like that. Whatever, the one thing we shouldn't fucking do is jump in the sewer with these bastards. Why would we want to do that? Why are there people here and on that dumb Fan TV and in other places who never have a good word to say about the club and are just as vacantly vicious as the dogshit media at every opportunity to stick the boot in? Why would fans do that?

    We're still in the title hunt, still in the cup, still in europe, we've won a hell of a lot more games than we've lost, our back five is coming together, we've spent some fucking money, we've signed some huge sponsorship deals. Why are fans turning on the team when there's still football to play and results to be decided? This reaction to one game has gone on for a week now. Yet there was hardly a peep after the Sunderland game, I think Mo even asked where the hell everyone was.

    Why don't we try sticking up for Ozil and sticking a knife in those cunt journalists instead of quoting them as if God just spoke?
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    There is no denying the media can be full of shit, hence why I check for the quotes to see the angle.

    But you're talking nonsense if you think the media have a specific agenda against Arsenal. They had no problem hyping Wilshere and now they're talking up Ramsey and deservedly so. Why would you think other teams get preferential treatment over ours? It's all down to performances and staying out of trouble. Just look at Suarez and Sturridge at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    There is no denying the media can be full of shit, hence why I check for the quotes to see the angle.

    But you're talking nonsense if you think the media have a specific agenda against Arsenal. They had no problem hyping Wilshere and now they're talking up Ramsey and deservedly so. Why would you think other teams get preferential treatment over ours? It's all down to performances and staying out of trouble. Just look at Suarez and Sturridge at the moment.
    I don't think they reserve this kind of shit just for us. I'm saying we should shove it back in the fat faces or stick them in the bloated gut when they bring it though. In terms of bias, they have their favourites. That cunt Mourinho can do no wrong, even though he spends most of his time doing wrong. Can you imagine if Wenger pulled those sort of antics? He'd be crucified. That intensely shitty thing they did splashing a photo of him slipping and falling, would Ferguson have got that treatment? That fat cunt Samuel would have been "outraged" on Fergie's behalf, quick as a flash no doubt. Redknapp - he's a crook. Free pass. Moyes an utter disaster. Sure, they report on it but where's the scorn and the humiliation pieces? 100 red cards, 100 red cards, 100 red cards - over two decades but don't mention that. Fucking gangsters in charge of the chavs - not a mention. Thieves and pirates and human rights monsters in charge of the gypos, not a peep. Don't try and pretend they aren't very selective in their - what do they call it? - "reporting".
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