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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    Apparently Trossard has signed a contract extension
    Great news.

    Of all the options we currently have on the left, he is by far the most effective.

    I just hope his attitude improves with the new contract.

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    So we have agreed to pay Trossard more money but his contract has not been extended

    And they wonder why we struggle to sell players

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Great news.

    Of all the options we currently have on the left, he is by far the most effective.

    I just hope his attitude improves with the new contract.
    It’s not great news.

    He’s a bench player and he is now 3rd choice behind Madueke.

    So we are paying him more money to maybe come on at some point.


    It also suggests we aren’t buying a LW player, so that’s our window done.
    Ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    So we have agreed to pay Trossard more money but his contract has not been extended

    And they wonder why we struggle to sell players
    Yeah I just checked Sky and seen the news..... pretty strange.

    However, I must say he was vastly underpaid compared to the rest of the squad (I mentioned it quite a few times in the past), and IMO if this improves his mood and gets him back to his best, it is worth it.

    @KSE

    Like I said earlier, at his best, he is by far the best option we have on the left...unless Martinelli is able to go back in time Marty Mcfly style.

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    I don’t mind Trossard staying at all, just annoyed that we couldn’t upgrade the left this summer. I don’t believe Madueke is going to play there as he’ll be Saka’s back up.

    Maybe Martinelli is the one we’ll look to sell next summer now.

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    Trossard wasn't great last season.

    He scored 8 goals total in the prem, 2 in the CL.
    He also had that daft strop and Arteta then started him in games - where he was non existent.

    Add to that he's 31 this year and his contract takes him to nearly 33 (this is a wage increase not an extension)

    He's just going to be another player that we get no money for or leaves on a free.

    We should have sold him this window and got someone else in. Hell, even sell Martinelli next summer too, if he doesn't improve. But the LW is a problem and these two players are part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Sigh. If it's nonsense then it should be simple to refute. You haven't engaged with what I'm saying.
    How hard is this to understand? I have clearly outlined 3 scenarios which can be mapped on to football squads where one can spend the same amount and end up with a weaker team, a stronger team or a stronger team and a stronger squad. Your claim is that those 3 things are equivalent. They just aren't. Which is why net spend is a better metric of what a club has done.
    Because that is a different topic and conversation and doesn't change the fact Arteta has spent nearly a billion quid. It's also not what you were saying about net spend determining how good the squad is.


    Well OK. And the valuation of a squad is another useful metric. No argument there. That's actually probably an even better metric than net spend.
    As is wage bill.
    Yes as it is fairly, in line with what has been spent.

    That is your claim, but it remains to be seen. We're 1 game in.
    We've challenged 2 out of the last 3 years. Last season was the outlier. Injuries were a factor, I'm certain we'd have been closer had we had fewer players out. But we also didn't do the right things in the transfer window last summer. I think we've done better this year, but other clubs have bought well too so I guess we'll see. We aren't going to sweep all before us but I reckon we'll be in the mix somewhere.
    It's not just my claim, loads of people have said the same and I'll bet if you go back and extract the data from Goonersweb over the last 10 years or so you will see that being said plenty of times by other posters too.
    Loads of Gooners have had that feeling over the years, every window "we are 1 or 2 players short still" - it's been said over and over again.

    We started last season with a 23 man squad registered - that is 2 players short of a full 25 man squad
    We have bought 6 players, 5 of which are replacements so that means we are 1 up on the squad.

    There has to come a point where we don't just challenge but try to win. Yes this current squad may now go and do just that. But we still have players that are not good enough or don't perform as they should when needed.
    We could and should, have fixed most of these deficiencies by now.

    Last season we needed a striker - didn't get one.
    This season (everyone pretty much agrees) we need to sort the LW - likely not gonna happen.

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    When you talk about 1 or 2 players short are you talking about number or quality. Because if it’s the latter well I don’t know anyone we were linked with who I could definitely say improves us in terms of quality. Rodrygo, I’ll be honest not sure what a lot of people are seeing there.

    Martinelli has been incredibly disappointing the last couple of seasons but I think a lot of the problem is the way we play that isolates the left hand side and Trossard has often had similar issues as well.


    So for me it comes down to the form of the players we have rather than the players we lack. What’s to say if we signed the players people here think we should that they aren’t also going to be suffocated by Arteta’s system.


    I really wanted us to sign a creative midfielder but it’s abundantly clear to me that Arteta will never play two creative midfielders in the same XI (with the exception of maybe friendlies).

    Ultimately it comes down to not what players we have, but what coach we have. If Arteta is not good enough to win the league with the squad we currently have, than he’s not good enough to win it even if we add the 1-2 extra players so therefore the issue is moot.

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    In talks with Stuttgart over a loan for Vieira, with an obligation of a 17m fee next year if performance targets are met.

    Having to come up with creative ways to get anything for our duds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    When you talk about 1 or 2 players short are you talking about number or quality. Because if it’s the latter well I don’t know anyone we were linked with who I could definitely say improves us in terms of quality. Rodrygo, I’ll be honest not sure what a lot of people are seeing there.

    Martinelli has been incredibly disappointing the last couple of seasons but I think a lot of the problem is the way we play that isolates the left hand side and Trossard has often had similar issues as well.


    So for me it comes down to the form of the players we have rather than the players we lack. What’s to say if we signed the players people here think we should that they aren’t also going to be suffocated by Arteta’s system.


    I really wanted us to sign a creative midfielder but it’s abundantly clear to me that Arteta will never play two creative midfielders in the same XI (with the exception of maybe friendlies).

    Ultimately it comes down to not what players we have, but what coach we have. If Arteta is not good enough to win the league with the squad we currently have, than he’s not good enough to win it even if we add the 1-2 extra players so therefore the issue is moot.
    For me it's not a numbers thing, it's a quality issue.

    I too want a creative player as I think we lack anyone outside of Odegaard.
    Also the LW is stale and needs a refresh. That means selling on or both and replacing them with better players.

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