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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Ok, fine. By selling assets we had money to spend. But we had to sell to buy. We weren't in a position to go out and buy an Ozil or a Sanchez. Now we are, and we have. There is no doubt that since the new financial deals came in it has changed our ability to buy big and our transfer policy has changed accordingly.
    But we didnt even spend what we made from selling. I remember a season where we made 40 odd million in transfers i.e. Kolo, Ade and someone else.. Most fans didnt want us to break the bank but we didnt even spend what we made from transfers!! We surely couldve forked the extra 2 million quid for Alonso or 1 million for Schwarzer, but AW didnt. That extra 3 million is a days income from tickets at emirates!!

    Anyway thats the past and we do seem to have got the makings of a very very good side. We just need to add a good back up for our DM, cut out our injuries and MOST IMPORTANTLY, we need to have a freaking plan for the big games.. we need to watch the Man City away game over and over again to drill how effective football is better than tippy tappy BS.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Ok, fine. By selling assets we had money to spend. But we had to sell to buy. We weren't in a position to go out and buy an Ozil or a Sanchez. Now we are, and we have. There is no doubt that since the new financial deals came in it has changed our ability to buy big and our transfer policy has changed accordingly.

    Ozil went to Real Madrid for £16.5m in 2010.

    We sold grade A players like Henry, Fabregas and RVP and downgraded to B class players and unpolished unproven young players.

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    It's not the most pressing need, but for the price, I'd be tempted to be in for Vidal. If I had to blow money on a player I'd go for Hummels as I'm pretty sure he could play CB AND CM at a high level to my mind.

    Not sure I quite like the little guy Alexis/Theo at CF but at this point with the paucity of options I'd be open to seeing it tried.....though I do prefer these things to be tested in pre season first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Ozil went to Real Madrid for £16.5m in 2010.

    We sold grade A players like Henry, Fabregas and RVP and downgraded to B class players and unpolished unproven young players.
    None of those players were Grade A when we bought them. Cesc was a kid, the other two were more established but both were young when we bought them and up and coming. Wenger probably does prefer to develop players than buy them off the shelf. I would have thought any manager would. Surely it's more satisfying to develop a Fabregas rather than buy one off the shelf. I never understand why spending £100m of a multi-billionaire's spare change is regarded as 'ambitious'. It's pretty much the exact opposite of ambitious, it's taking the short-cut and the easy option. That said, in today's game if you're a City, in the pre money-cheat days, then there isn't much other option to better yourself if you want to mix with the elite.
    Players like Sanchez and Ozil are a statement of intent though, I'm hoping (although am not confident) we will do something similar this summer. But the level of striker that would significantly improve us don't grow on trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Even though I don't agree with this, this would be Wengers thinking

    If I buy Vidal I will have to play him week in week out, this kills Coquelins development

    Therefore what I need is someone who is able to deputise when needed and I have that in Arteta who fills the dual role of the leader off the pitch.

    Like I say I don't buy it, but that's how he will have reasoned it
    This thinking is why we've not been able to compete with a squad with strength in depth. Vidal doesn't have to replace Coq, there are times when tactically we should be adopting a 4-2-3-1 system & they can both play. Vidal can also play further up the field whilst giving Coq competiton for the DM role. I find it amazing you would think like this when you consider our injury record. Having 2 quality players for key positions is an absolute necessity if we are to compete.

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    Wenger probably does prefer to develop players than buy them off the shelf. I would have thought any manager would. Surely it's more satisfying to develop a Fabregas rather than buy one off the shelf.
    As usual, so quick to defend Wenger you talk yourself into a circle. Your above point follows along the same lines of what Herb said.

    I think it's still hubris rather than lack of ambition, Wenger wants to be lauded as a genius who can win things by unearthing gems rather than purchasing established stars. The problem is for him, is that the youngsters he used to be able to sign for 500k are now going to clubs for about thirty times that amount, and those he is plucking from obscurity like Bielik are either far too young or not at the level to put them into the first team.
    When your argument about us not having money to buy established players gets shot down, you resort back to what we’ve all been saying in the first place. But you’re trying to defend Wenger’s decision not to spend when your original argument was that there was no money at all.

    I imagine developing your own player is more satisfying for a manger but should a manager be putting his own satisfaction and ideals above the needs of his own players, the fans and club? Does it outweigh the satisfaction of winning silverware? Those are the questions that’s been eating away at most fans for years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You’re above point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Edit.

    Enough of the wumming. Can you answer the last point if at all possible.

    I imagine developing your own player is more satisfying for a manger but should a manager be putting his own satisfaction and ideals above the needs of his own players, the fans and club? Does it outweigh the satisfaction of winning silverware?

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    No bid for for Benzema >>insert WUMger wum face pic<<<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Injury Time View Post
    No bid for for Benzema >>insert WUMger wum face pic<<<
    If that one does end up happening, it will be veeeeeeeery, very late in the window. Possibly the last few days, and almost certainly after the Spanish league is a few games in, and the player knows whether he's been relegated to the bench, behind the Portuguese show-pony.

    As it is, I think we've got to take Wenger's comments as true - at the moment, there's nothing happening with Benzema, and talks of official bids going in on Monday are nonsense...

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