Arsenal 0-1 West Ham Match Reaction

[KSE Comedy Club]

I’ve honestly tried being nice and patient

But if people want to promote a narrative rather than analyse the situation for what it is. I’m going to be sarcastic and off hand. Will I get anywhere doing this? No but I’ve clearly got no where being patient and understanding and at least this way I have more fun

Ah well, at least it will get your post count up though, eh

[HCZ_Reborn]

Sensitive?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

I gave a one post tongue in cheek response, I actually couldn't care less

All those things you said are probably to an extent, true, I have no doubt he is not in form as it shows.
However, if he was doing hi sown thing and not following the instructions of how Arteta wants the team to function, I very much doubt he would be playing.

Doubtless he wouldn’t be playing, if we had an alternative to play there

That’s the problem we don’t. And I don’t think it’s reasonable (and I don’t think you do either) to think Arteta has turned into a lunatic and told our most creative player…don’t play so creatively. Honestly what do you see when you watch Odegaard, a player high on confidence or a player looking unsure…pensive….trying simpler things because he doesn’t believe in himself that the more adventurous things will come off?.

I mean for heavens sake he even hesitated slightly when Havertz gave him an open goal against Man City (and Havertz did that because he didn’t have the confidence to take it on himself).

These are players with tired minds and tired bodies, what was once easy for them isn’t coming off now.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ah well, at least it will get your post count up though, eh

Not remotely interested in anything like that. If no one said anything I disagreed with I’d probably never post on the football side of the forum. Because in likelihood someone’s already said something I think is true and probably said it more succinctly

I’ve actually said more than once in the past that I don’t like the style of football we play, but at this moment in time….it’s a bit like saying you don’t like the decorating in the upstairs bathroom when the roof has blown off.

[KSE Comedy Club]

It’s a laudable worry but I’m afraid there’s not much we can do about it

People dont like feeling powerless and helpless to prevent something and they’ll do anything to fight against it. I suspect this is why I’m getting so much resistance.

I would say the resistance is coming at you more because you seem to think we don't have any player capable of doing the basics in football, every team plays one way against us but you seemingly won't acknowledge why that is, you treat everyone on here like they are idiots & you are incapable of having a general discussion without your superiority complex taking over.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I have probably seen about 3 games this season where we attempted a full on, proper, from start to finish, counter attack.

Off the top of my head

The last goal we scored was a counter attacking goal

At least two of the goals we scored against City were on the counter

Then there is Sporting Lisbon, Palace, West Ham, the third goal against Southampton at home.

I think in too many games it’s more been about huffing and puffing against teams who sit deep to take the lead and then having used up so much energy we decide to sit off.

There is certainly no pathological aversion to it, maybe just not the confidence to pull it off

[KSE Comedy Club]

Doubtless he wouldn’t be playing, if we had an alternative to play there

That’s the problem we don’t. And I don’t think it’s reasonable (and I don’t think you do either) to think Arteta has turned into a lunatic and told our most creative player…don’t play so creatively. Honestly what do you see when you watch Odegaard, a player high on confidence or a player looking unsure…pensive….trying simpler things because he doesn’t believe in himself that the more adventurous things will come off?.

I mean for heavens sake he even hesitated slightly when Havertz gave him an open goal against Man City (and Havertz did that because he didn’t have the confidence to take it on himself).

These are players with tired minds and tired bodies, what was once easy for them isn’t coming off now.

Aren't you the same guy who has basically been posting about Arteta being a cold, passive aggressive, egotistical cunt - but he can't be a lunatic as well?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Off the top of my head

The last goal we scored was a counter attacking goal

At least two of the goals we scored against City were on the counter

Then there is Sporting Lisbon, Palace, West Ham, the third goal against Southampton at home.

I think in too many games it’s more been about huffing and puffing against teams who sit deep to take the lead and then having used up so much energy we decide to sit off.

There is certainly no pathological aversion to it, maybe just not the confidence to pull it off

I think the boredom from watching us play has made me black out during parts of the game

[HCZ_Reborn]

I would say the resistance is coming at you more because you seem to think we don't have any player capable of doing the basics in football, every team plays one way against us but you seemingly won't acknowledge why that is, you treat everyone on here like they are idiots & you are incapable of having a general discussion without your superiority complex taking over.

I do people here the respect of believing that they are at least equal in intelligence to myself. If I thought you were all stupid, I wouldn’t bother insulting you because a) it would go over your heads and b) I wouldn’t hold you in contempt for what I regard as specious reasoning.


The vast majority of teams do play one way against us, they would be foolish not to. It’s not a conspiracy, they will play the same way against Liverpool or city. Deny them space and time on the ball and try and get them to overcommit and catch them on the break

The difference is City and Liverpool don’t play with two defensive midfielders, I’ve screamed blue murder about this especially in home games. But we don’t have the luxury of playing two attacking midfielders in central midfield for example now. With Saka out, Nwaneri has to play on the wing

[HCZ_Reborn]

Aren't you the same guy who has basically been posting about Arteta being a cold, passive aggressive, egotistical cunt - but he can't be a lunatic as well?

I think he’s all of those things.


But I don’t think for example he believes the dog on the training ground inhabits the soul of his dead grandad. This is the kind of lunacy we’d be talking for him to be actively encouraging Odegaard to play like that.


But what im hearing is. “It’s ok for you to rant on, but when someone else does it….you’re on them like a fly on shit”


Now if that was your argument, I’d have to say fair enough. But you’d then have to accept most of your current arguments come from letting off steam and frustration rather than rational analysis. I’m past the point of anger and frustration

[HCZ_Reborn]

I think the boredom from watching us play has made me black out during parts of the game

Fair