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    I believe we're running a healthy club, that we can still cheer for in 50 years time and most of that is all Wenger, for being able to keep us in the champions league year in year out, when not having any money to spend (i think we had a +10m in total spending for last 10 years of transfers in/out).

    How can people not trust Wenger to be good in a transfer window? Right now we have the best defence in the league, made from 2 unknowns, 2 home grown and an average player, molded in to world class. Wenger is probably one of the best in a transfer window, but if clubs are not willing to sell, what can we do? A club that is run to be financially healthy, dont go out and throw 5-10-15m extra for a player, if he's not worth it.

    People keep saying "BUT HE DIDNT SIGN STRIKER IN JANUARY LOOOOL WNEGNER OUT!!"... Again, pls tell me who was available? and dont mention shit like berbatov, vucinic and eduardo, as much as you hate Bendtner he's at their level and it makes no sense paying 50k+ in wages for a player that dont add anything to our squad. Then why didnt we sign Diego Costa, Jackson Martinez, etc? First of all, they're both fighting for the title with their teams right now, so we had to double their normal asking price, just to be able to talk with them, and then those players would probably not join us 6 months before the world cup, risking their places at the world cup, since it takes quite some time to settle in a new country, culture and especially the premier league, so their form would probably suck a bit if they're thrown right in.

    If you're going to reply to this comment, pls give me a proper answer, not just "loool you said Bendtner is good, i cant take you seriouos", no i didnt i said those players are as shit as him. And yes he signed Kim Kallstrom, it was a calculated risk that failed, move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    I believe we're running a healthy club, that we can still cheer for in 50 years time and most of that is all Wenger, for being able to keep us in the champions league year in year out, when not having any money to spend (i think we had a +10m in total spending for last 10 years of transfers in/out).

    How can people not trust Wenger to be good in a transfer window? Right now we have the best defence in the league, made from 2 unknowns, 2 home grown and an average player, molded in to world class. Wenger is probably one of the best in a transfer window, but if clubs are not willing to sell, what can we do? A club that is run to be financially healthy, dont go out and throw 5-10-15m extra for a player, if he's not worth it.

    People keep saying "BUT HE DIDNT SIGN STRIKER IN JANUARY LOOOOL WNEGNER OUT!!"... Again, pls tell me who was available? and dont mention shit like berbatov, vucinic and eduardo, as much as you hate Bendtner he's at their level and it makes no sense paying 50k+ in wages for a player that dont add anything to our squad. Then why didnt we sign Diego Costa, Jackson Martinez, etc? First of all, they're both fighting for the title with their teams right now, so we had to double their normal asking price, just to be able to talk with them, and then those players would probably not join us 6 months before the world cup, risking their places at the world cup, since it takes quite some time to settle in a new country, culture and especially the premier league, so their form would probably suck a bit if they're thrown right in.

    If you're going to reply to this comment, pls give me a proper answer, not just "loool you said Bendtner is good, i cant take you seriouos", no i didnt i said those players are as shit as him. And yes he signed Kim Kallstrom, it was a calculated risk that failed, move on.
    1. We are not the best defense in the league at the moment. We were.
    2. Our defense bar this season has been atrocious. Especially at set pieces.
    3. If Kallstrom is a 'calculated' risk, then Berbatov wouldve been a lesser risk. Your Kallstrom argument again is absolute cack... its like defending a serial killer. Quit it!
    4. Our football is slow and boring
    5. We have not won anything for 8 seasons and look like going back to the same old routine of going toothless around Feb/March
    6. Bendtner! Really? FFS.. No one should ever take you seriously.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    How can people not trust Wenger to be good in a transfer window?
    Chamakh, Park, Santos, Gervinho, Podolski, Squillaci, Sanogo, Kallstrom, Arshavin, Giroud….

    I’m not saying he hasn’t made good signings in recent years and not all the above are terrible, but an Arsene Wenger signing isn’t the same as what it used to be 10 years ago. I used to have complete faith that he could sign a player rough around the edges and turn him into a world class star. It worries me that he’s signed players that are being hoisted out after a couple of seasons because they’re that bad.

    In regards to who we should sign, I don’t get paid to scout for Arsenal. I don’t have the time or resources to watch every game in various leagues so it’s unrealistic to ask anyone on here for a list of realistic targets. It’s not as if anyone here would have named Ozil as a realistic target early in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    I believe we're running a healthy club, that we can still cheer for in 50 years time and most of that is all Wenger, for being able to keep us in the champions league year in year out, when not having any money to spend (i think we had a +10m in total spending for last 10 years of transfers in/out).


    We're not asking Wenger to spend a shit load and get us into debt. All we're saying is that there has been significant money which has been made available to him to strengthen the team for many seasons now, and it's his failure to address the needs of the team to go out and spend it !

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    ffs all you do is criticize and dont come with any counter arguments for a solution, saying "im not this, im not that", hell how can you criticize in the first place then?

    Im sorry, but i cant take most of you serious, when all you do is saying "Wenger out" and attack people that dont agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    ffs all you do is criticize and dont come with any counter arguments for a solution, saying "im not this, im not that", hell how can you criticize in the first place then?

    Im sorry, but i cant take most of you serious, when all you do is saying "Wenger out" and attack people that dont agree with you.
    As you always like to say, this isn’t Football Manager and if anyone comes up with a dream list of players, the typical response would be ‘ this isn’t Football Manager’. I’m just being realistic. The counter argument is very simple, Wenger should be making the most of his resources and we should have planned ahead this season. It’s not as if he didn’t know January would be a hard window so I’m not sure why he didn’t do the bulk of the work in the summer.

    Going forward, maybe we need better scouts, a Director of Football to take control of the transfers…I really don’t know but I’d like to see a change in our approach so we’re not repeating ourselves over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintnickle View Post
    I forgot about arshavins 80k a week .Some on here who defend Wenger to the hilt are using ozil to defend our transfer policy.Some are arguing that we spent far more than we did last summer .All of a sudden 42.5 m becomes closer to 60m with wages and agents fees.They forget to mention that we shipped out over a dozen players and whilst many didnt involve transfers there were a hell of a lot of wages saved.Gervinio,chamakh,santos,djourou,denielson,sq uillachi and the other 7 players we got rid of must come to 500k per week .So that means with the players that have come in we are saving over 250k a week.
    This id for you jonas,steve and the other akbs .What do you think will happen to the surplus 40m saved on transfers last summer??
    Why would I substantively respond to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    I believe we're running a healthy club, that we can still cheer for in 50 years time and most of that is all Wenger, for being able to keep us in the champions league year in year out, when not having any money to spend (i think we had a +10m in total spending for last 10 years of transfers in/out).

    How can people not trust Wenger to be good in a transfer window? Right now we have the best defence in the league, made from 2 unknowns, 2 home grown and an average player, molded in to world class. Wenger is probably one of the best in a transfer window, but if clubs are not willing to sell, what can we do? A club that is run to be financially healthy, dont go out and throw 5-10-15m extra for a player, if he's not worth it.

    People keep saying "BUT HE DIDNT SIGN STRIKER IN JANUARY LOOOOL WNEGNER OUT!!"... Again, pls tell me who was available? and dont mention shit like berbatov, vucinic and eduardo, as much as you hate Bendtner he's at their level and it makes no sense paying 50k+ in wages for a player that dont add anything to our squad. Then why didnt we sign Diego Costa, Jackson Martinez, etc? First of all, they're both fighting for the title with their teams right now, so we had to double their normal asking price, just to be able to talk with them, and then those players would probably not join us 6 months before the world cup, risking their places at the world cup, since it takes quite some time to settle in a new country, culture and especially the premier league, so their form would probably suck a bit if they're thrown right in.

    If you're going to reply to this comment, pls give me a proper answer, not just "loool you said Bendtner is good, i cant take you seriouos", no i didnt i said those players are as shit as him. And yes he signed Kim Kallstrom, it was a calculated risk that failed, move on.
    The defence has been a total shambles up until this season, IMO it's Bould's influence as the improvement coincides with him coming in, we've also conceded 6 and 5 in two games this season, whilst overall they've been better it's not been perfect.

    Wenger has made plenty of dud signings that we've been stuck with as he stuck them on high wages, he's not better than any other manager statistically in the transfer window, but more importantly he doesn't sign players in the positions we need, he signs midfielders and tries to convert them most of the time.

    There's always players you can sign if you're willing to pay, that's a fact, but he also had all of last summer to sign someone, depending on whether you want someone short term (in January) or long term here are some names, Balotelli, El Sharaawy, Huntelaar, Di Natale, Michu and the players you mentioned to name but a few, but you have to pay what their clubs want for them, and if you seriously want to compete that's a sacrifice you have to make.

    Yes obviously some players may not come, however business should have been done last summer as mentioned, we knew we needed a striker but we failed to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    Why would I substantively respond to you?

    In case you hadn't noticed, I don't take you seriously.
    I dont care if you take me seriously or not.Im entitled to my opinion the same as you are .Im just asking you the question ??

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    I think more funds will be genuinely available for transfers.
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