match reaction v chelsea

[Dein-machine]

The early season form following the arrival of Ozil put us in a false position, a long run of games against mediocre teams saw us top the league aided by some poor early form from the Mancs, Chavs & Scousers. Then we played Man u, Chavs, Everton & Man city and decided to go into "shit ourselves" mode - too many on here couldn't see it. If we are going to continue to let this obnoxious, arrogant old fool manage our team nothing will change.
Massive clearout needed in the summer starting with Wenger. If any other manager, in any other form of employment, continued to lose out on big contracts to rival companies because of his pricing,negotiations, not investing in quality staff etc - they would have been sacked ages ago. His dealings in the transfer market are unbelievable, only the wankers on the board, too scared to stand up to him, can be the only ones not shaking their heads - we simply cannot afford for him to be in charge during the next window otherwise 2015 will be no different.
Get rid of Gibbs or Monreal ( whichever one stays is LB cover ) Vermaelan, Jenkinson, Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky, Giroud, Bendtner, Podolski, Sonogo (we haven't got time to teach him how to shoot or control a ball), Sagna (leaving anyway).
The only players we should look to start with next year are Sir Ches, Kos, Rambo, Ozil, Ox & Walcott. Players like Cazorla & Wheelchair need to prove themselves from the bench. Merts CB cover
This leaves us needing to find 2 quality full backs & centre back. Defensive midfielder. Powerhouse midfielder ( Ya-Ya like ), 2 quality strikers with pace & technique ( Suarez/Sturridge like ).

This would be the ideal time for a new manager to come in & have a say in these players, putting his own stamp on things from the start.

[Niall_Quinn]

In other words get some arab criminals in and spend hundreds of millions of quid?

[Letters]

Early season form? After 29 games we were 4 points off the top with a game in hand. And we're in the FA Cup semi-final.
We clearly don't need a massive clear out.

[Dein-machine]

In other words get some arab criminals in and spend hundreds of millions of quid?

No - the rubbish can be sold to bring in £50mill + the £100 mill we are told we have to spend. We can't buy £50 mill+ like others do on one player, especially as we need quite a few but we need to buy quality £20-30 mill players instead of Flamini, Sonogo & Khalstrom.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger's full comments to put what he said in context for those who have already read the selective hit pieces designed to mislead:

‘You could blame and blame but it does not help,’ said Wenger as he strode to the team bus on Saturday.
‘What is important is we show we have the capacity to respond. The most disappointing thing is we were never in the game. After 20 minutes, it was game over and it became a long, dramatic, dreadful afternoon.
‘It is puzzling. We were shocked and knocked down basically without feeling we ever had a chance. This team is healthy and willing but we have to think about the way it happened because it is not the first time.’

He's saying pretty much what we have all said. He even gets slaughtered when he agrees with us. This demonstrates it's just a wild and unfocused hate campaign against the guy (by some at least) rather than a constructive criticism.

[Dein-machine]

Early season form? After 29 games we were 4 points off the top with a game in hand. And we're in the FA Cup semi-final.
We clearly don't need a massive clear out.

If we are to compete at the top which hopefully you would like us to, please advise which current top teams in Europe would start games with Gibbs or Monreal, Flamini, Arteta, Podolski, Giroud, Rosicky, Sonogo in their line-up or which top teams would purchase any of these. At times this year, all of these have started for us & will continue to do so under Wenger.
Unless players are happy to be squad players, we need a BIG clearout.

[Dein-machine]

Wenger's full comments to put what he said in context for those who have already read the selective hit pieces designed to mislead:



He's saying pretty much what we have all said. He even gets slaughtered when he agrees with us. This demonstrates it's just a wild and unfocused hate campaign against the guy (by some at least) rather than a constructive criticism.

NQ - what do you expect him to say? If you saying we should applaud his honesty why doesn't he say - " Sorry, I shit myself everytime I play a top team as I know I am tactically inept compared to their more modern managers & because I won't buy quality players when I so obviously needed to do so in certain positions this team doesn't have the ability to compete" - Then I'd applaud him, otherwise he gets what he deserves. If I was paid £7mill a year & delivered the same inept performances against my main competitors year in,year out - I'd expect the same. Difference being, i would have been sacked years ago.

[Letters]

If we are to compete at the top which hopefully you would like us to, please advise which current top teams in Europe would start games with Gibbs or Monreal, Flamini, Arteta, Podolski, Giroud, Rosicky, Sonogo in their line-up or which top teams would purchase any of these. At times this year, all of these have started for us & will continue to do so under Wenger.
Unless players are happy to be squad players, we need a BIG clearout.

You're kinda changing the subject. You started by saying it was only our early season form which saw us in a false position. That's simply not true. After 29 games we were 4 points off the top with a game in hand. We were in the title race until Saturday. Some of the players you mentioned aren't first team regulars anyway and as for the rest...well, certainly we need more up front, we all know that, but our squad can't be that bad or we wouldn't have stayed up there for so long.

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ - what do you expect him to say? If you saying we should applaud his honesty why doesn't he say - " Sorry, I shit myself everytime I play a top team as I know I am tactically inept compared to their more modern managers & because I won't buy quality players when I so obviously needed to do so in certain positions this team doesn't have the ability to compete" - Then I'd applaud him, otherwise he gets what he deserves. If I was paid £7mill a year & delivered the same inept performances against my main competitors year in,year out - I'd expect the same. Difference being, i would have been sacked years ago.

No, I posted it to counter the idea that ALL he said was he was puzzled.

Also, there is an amazing correlation between these "modern" managers and the billions they have spent or inherited, don't you think? Are there no modern managers below us in the table? And if there are, is it correct to claim complete incompetence in all aspects of football? because if you are completely incompetent then how do you end up with a team placed above most of these modern greats after 30 games? It makes no sense. Perhaps there is a middle ground buried beneath the media guff. Problems yes, offset against respectable achievement.

[Globalgunner]

Sometimes you just have to accept that there really is no hope. Too far gone for rationalising with some.