Palace vs Arsenal - August 21st KO: 20:00

[LDG]

Ps. Was resonding to actual football natter. No wimball

[HCZ_Reborn]

Can policy not change over time?

I mean, when Arteta came in, the first thing he did was put some basic shape in the side such that we were a bit more difficult to play against.

We then started addressing the issue of removing shite from the books. And also removed pure talent, because talent is not good enough on its own without a team ethos, and a willingness to learn and put in the graft.

Massive calls is fucking off Ozil, Auba, Guendosi(sp)/the second coming according to some.

Then we blooded a team for a year. White, Gabriel, Saka, ESR etc etc….in the first season we fell short of CL…the means to and reason for a deeper squad, and heavy spending.

Look, if we fuck the whole thing up this year, Arteta is naturally on his way out. I don’t believe for one second that they will back him further if we fall back into the Europa and mid-table bullshit.

But by giving a manager time, by taking a more rational, less aggressive stance, we’re in a far better position than the clubs who have a revolving door as a manager recruitment process.

Just wait. Be patient. Every year so far has been (in the grand scheme), better than the last. And I at least feel like we have the groundwork for rebuilding what was a shell of a club when Wenger left.

Just have go on the stadium tour again. Love it….everything is about the club’s history and the lessons we have learned. It’s class. “Remember who you are, what you are and what you represent”. That is everything for me. After that, you have talent, or not….and thats for the club to decide, otherwise, I’m behind em

Sometimes I feel like, when listening to certain Arsenal fans like I’m on the outside watching a documentary about a cult.

It’s all very well saying well he will get sacked if we end up sliding down the table again, but where does that leave us?. It might help if the club intervened well before that point. But a block on transfers like Zinchenko, Vieira, Havertz and Rice and say…”we are investing a lot of money in this team, it’s not for you to piss it up the wall”

As for getting rid of Ozil being a big move? It was the only move the guy was becoming feral, we had to cut him loose. Auba I suspect we only got rid of when he lost his usefulness to us and Guendouzi…well when we had players like Xhaka, Elneny and Lokonga in the midfield it does make you question the sense of getting rid of him.

Same with Torreira arguably

But if Captain Black don’t rate you, you either have to pull up trees or you’re screwed


I worry about what he’s saddled us with, an imbalanced squad…so much money spent that it will be almost impossible to fix the mistakes he’s made. And a complete stubbornness when it comes to rotating and the system we play.


But above all else there is frustration, that despite city probably being weaker than last season, despite Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs, United, Newcastle all being in some form of transition. That we chose not to get the players that might actually win us the league.

We’ve bemoaned for decades it feels that we don’t have the finances to compete and when we do, it gets wasted by a Spaniard who has a pathological urge to buy full backs and shoehorn players into the wrong position.

There’s no guarantees in life, and we are entitled to nothing but it feels weird to me that other people don’t feel the massive resentment I feel at what we’ve squandered

[Mac76]

I'd forgotten about Torreira - he was one of those players who, when he first came, we thought we might have for years and who might be something of a legend - same with Tierney actually - i sometimes think the revolving door is going more and more quickly for some players at least

meanwhile we get stuck with Xhaka for five seasons too many and no doubt it will be the same with Zinchenko

@LDG I get what you are saying and I go to almost every home game and get behind the team on the day, but i can't blindly just accept all of what Arteta does if i think he's making really bad calls - and i do think he's making some really bad calls - but if we suddenly start playing like a team supposedly in contention then i might start to believe in him a bit more