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Re Alvarez... 12M for a player that no one has ever heard of and looks like he will struggle to adapt is a fucking joke. Hope we're not in for him.
And people on here were talking about how Young was overpriced
ThisRe Alvarez... 12M for a player that no one has ever heard of and looks like he will struggle to adapt is a fucking joke. Hope we're not in for him.
And people on here were talking about how Young was overpriced
Looks like we're getting Gervinho for £12m in the next few days although the "next few days" have been said for at least 3 weeks now.
£11m for this druggie from Argentina as well.
£23m on 2 players that arent of sufficient quality to improve us to the level we need.
Oh well. On we go to 2012/13
Because players who most people haven't heard of are shit? That's retarded logic. We ought to have concerns over every foreign player that signs in that case in terms of them adapting.Re Alvarez... 12M for a player that no one has ever heard of and looks like he will struggle to adapt is a fucking joke. Hope we're not in for him.
And people on here were talking about how Young was overpriced
We don't know the price either.
But as a replacement for Rosicky, I'm happy with this. It's a bit of a gamble but I'm willing to bet he'll be more effective than Tomas, who seems to have lost it.
At least it seems we're finally willing to spend. It's stupid to criticise Wenger for not getting value for money then complain that he's not spending enough money.
The northbanklower.com site says we're in to sign two centre-backs this summer (from Cahill, Jagieka and Samba) but Cahill prefers Citeh, Jagielka is settled in the North-West and Blackeye want £15m for Samba...
Also, I'd go for Vertonghen, but with Ajax bringing back legends in a re-structuring of the club, he might not want to go and they won't sell him.
No, not because players nobody has ever heard of are automatically shit (sometimes that trend can be bucked) but because we know what we lack as a club, we know what problems we have faced in the past and Mr Wenger continues to refuse to fix those problems. I'm extremely pleased if he's going after Samba, Cahill or Jagielka and we MUST get 2 from 3 so we can repair a woeful defence populated by other unheard of players who have - surprise, surprise, FAILED. But I don't see why the policy of common sense and sanity can't be applied to the rest of the team. Why do we have to have South Americans when we could have British players? What's the chance of a British player pining to leave Arsenal so he can go back to Britain? What's the chance of him having passport problems? Or not settling into the British way of life? Or hating the food? On the contrary, when Spanish clubs come calling there's less chance of him wanting to be away because now all the playing-abroad, can't settle shit starts working in our favour.
Enough foreigners, buy British FFS or at least buy PL experienced foreigners. Enough of being a try before you commit club.
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Defence should be our first priority. That is where the bulk of the money should go this year but I don't see it happening. I don't want to hear any talk about over inflated prices if we buy 2 attacking players for £10m plus each and we start next season without a new centre back.
No but Wenger's record is very poor in the last 6 years regarding finding quality and yet he continues to take the risk rather than signing someone proven.
The guy hasn't got the message and clearly never learns, he should GTFO if this is his best attempt at sorting things tbh.
Overpaying for unknowns may be spending money, but it's not the right policy given our situation, to do this after last season is foolish at best.
Last edited by Özim; 25-06-2011 at 01:01 PM.
Yeah me too, just another sign Wenger just doesn't get it.Re Alvarez... 12M for a player that no one has ever heard of and looks like he will struggle to adapt is a fucking joke. Hope we're not in for him.
And people on here were talking about how Young was overpriced
We need two types of signings this summer:
a) Experienced PL quality players that can perform at a reasonable standard
b) 'Star' players from outside that can make a difference
Gervinho fits the b) category, and is likely to adapt (even though he'll be away for the ACoN, it's still a decent ish signing) - he's strong, pacy and was an important part of a title winning team last year.
Alvarez is a player who no one's ever heard of, is injury prone, played his first professional game in 2008 and comes from a completely different league. The best South American players have struggled to adapt, and he's definitely not one of those. Someone like Young at 20M (as an example) is a bargain compared to the quoted price of 12M.
I hope we're in for Samba/Cahill but we were linked with the same duo last year and signed absolute garbage instead. Wenger has to spend money, much more than he's been spending, but he also has to spend it wisely, something he's not been doing over the last few years. We spend 14M on garbage defenders who have no idea how to play in the English league and weaken our defense doing it, and then Wenger spouts nonsense like 12-15M for Samba/Cahill/whoever is too much. We start the season with Almunia/Fabianski/Chezza in goal because Wenger's too stubborn to spend 2M on a PL trusted GK, we start the season before that with Denilson/Diaby as two of our first teamers because Wenger's too stubborn to spend 2M more on a PL class midfielder (Alonso).
What Wenger seems to fail to realise is that by constantly buying cheap, it ends up very expensive over the long run, constantly buying replacements (or screwing the team's performance because he doesn't) and the constant chopping and changing makes it hard to build a stable team. At this point last season we had spent almost as much as United on CBs since they bought Ferdinand, but we had far more partnerships in that time and a far less stable defense.
A good player will pay for itself over the long run, and if it's what we need Wenger should be willing to push the boat out. Everyone's getting tired of us signing project players who either completely fail (costing us while they do) or take so long coming good that they're on the verge of looking for a new club by the time they reach a suitable level.
Last edited by Boss; 25-06-2011 at 01:08 PM.
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