Middle Class opposition to "Conspicious Consumption"

[Kano]

Agree with that ultimately, but it's a deep argument that keeps on going. In the end we need to exploit slave labour in the far east more effectively than our competitors if we want to grab top spot. But there's still the idealism of genuine sport to shake off. Difficult to do because it's appealing and seems worthy, compared to the faceless corporate shit that sits like a terminal cancer at the heart of everything.

If we want to follow this model and become the super club the move was designed for, then we need a continent of slave kids working to the bone. Ripping off local based fans and squeezing what we can out of those across the world is not enough. when you are on an equal footing to your direct competitors from your resources then that competitive edge remains. getting there is the problem but i can’t criticise others for taking the short cut as if you aren’t smart enough to take the quick route, you have to suffer the consequences.

[Niall_Quinn]

If we want to follow this model and become the super club the move was designed for, then we need a continent of slave kids working to the bone. Ripping off local based fans and squeezing what we can out of those across the world is not enough. when you are on an equal footing to your direct competitors from your resources then that competitive edge remains. getting there is the problem but i can’t criticise others for taking the short cut as if you aren’t smart enough to take the quick route, you have to suffer the consequences.

We could start a war with Russia and steal their resources. That would knock Abramovich out of the game too. We could prove Chelsea have WMD.

[Flavs]

I wonder what Diana would of made of it all

(The express)

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder what Diana would of made of it all

(The express)

Hating the monarchy for treating the Queen of Hearts like shit is old news. New news is hitting the streets on Tuesday to feast and grovel. Please try to keep up with all the deeply heartfelt emotional issues.

[Flavs]

You're right of course, we should blame house prices...

(The independent)

[PGFC]

Money without class is just vulgar

[Syn]

Fucking yawn.

[IBK]

OP ignores the fact that football, like any sport is supposed to be about competing fairly; the excitement of unpredictability; the romance etc. That's what distinguishes sport from pure commerce, and is the reason why people love it.

Of course, we are coming increasingly further away from the Corinthian spirit, but once you stray as far from it as football is getting, the competetiveness aspect of the game starts to disappear and sport loses its essence.

So I would bracket Citeh and the Chavs along with athletes who dope. The result of what they are doing is nothing more or less than gaining an unfair advantage in pursuit of success. And the reason I would say that their situations are different from the 'have's/have not's that have always existed in the EPL is that they are basically taking out all of the variants that used to exist before the kinds of sums that they are now able to spend. Injuries/suspensions - no longer an issue for them. Players off form? - ditto - just bring in some international superstar from the bench. And they are not only making themselves immune to some of the variants that others are subject to, but they are effectively suppressing the competition by unsettleing their bast players; making transfer targets unattainable, and making all players more expensive - therefore destabilising or relegating the weakest of them.

Nothing to do with class politics, I'm afraid.

[Kano]

We could start a war with Russia and steal their resources. That would knock Abramovich out of the game too. We could prove Chelsea have WMD.

when you say us, do you mean arsenal or goonersweb?

[Niall_Quinn]

when you say us, do you mean arsenal or goonersweb?

GW. I'm confident we could start a war with anyone, any time.