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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Never. Didn't you say we didn't want to pay Remy £80kpw and that he was greedy?
    Remy wanted £5mill a year, about £100K - again of course, according to the media. A lot for a player who has yet to do anything significant. The fact he's gone to sit on the chav bench says a lot about his priorities.

    Welbeck didn't want a loan deal, wants a starting position, CL footie and £115K - according to the media. Sounds ambitious. Then again, Theo demanded a starting position and £100K and many, including myself, viewed that as greedy considering (like Welbeck) he hasn't hit the anticipated heights yet. All very difficult to judge these silly wages for players that have paper thin differences between them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Remy wanted £5mill a year, about £100K - again of course, according to the media. A lot for a player who has yet to do anything significant. The fact he's gone to sit on the chav bench says a lot about his priorities.

    Welbeck didn't want a loan deal, wants a starting position, CL footie and £115K - according to the media. Sounds ambitious. Then again, Theo demanded a starting position and £100K and many, including myself, viewed that as greedy considering (like Welbeck) he hasn't hit the anticipated heights yet. All very difficult to judge these silly wages for players that have paper thin differences between them.
    I only saw reports of £80k a week and you can't begrudge him that. If the club thinks a player is good enough to start, you can't pay him less than the rest of our starters. It's a fair asking wage. Arteta came to us on £75kpw, Pod is earning £100kpw. Welbeck is coming in at the top end so it's quite surprising if we actually scoffed at Remy's wage demands.

    Also, you need to put things into perspective. If you believe in yourself and your talent, you wouldn't sell yourself short and settle for being a big fish in a small pond. That shows a serious lack of confidence and no club should want such a player. It's hard to begrudge a player for wanting a move from QPR to Chelsea.

    But what's done is done. I think this was another panic buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Wenger wants a tall guy up front who can win headers and hold the ball up well. Welbeck isn't far off Giroud's height and he's good in the air. That's why I feel Walcott and Sanchez will never get a proper shot as a striker for us. Particularly in walcott's case, injury worries will always remain until we get a full season out of him.

    I expect the club to work on building Welbeck's strengths just like they did Adebayor and Giroud (and Sanogo, apparently). Wenger wants a strong physical presence upfront. Personally I would've given Walcott a chance, and if Welbeck doesn't impress then maybe be still might.
    Yes, I've noticed the trend with the strikers. Welbeck is a tall lad and may be able to hold up the ball better and at least he's quick. I still feel Sanchez should have been given more games up front and feel it's more of a positional and movement problem rather than being physically able to hold up the ball. He's a battler with a great control. But is it worth turning a player like Sanchez into a striker because we're weak in that area?

    Also, I have a feeling Theo will be on his way out of the club soon. He's out of contract soon. Will have a year left by the end of this season. I think Sanchez is his replacement. Also, Theo has to feel some sort of way about Wenger bringing in Welbeck whose less prolific but was in similar position at Manure. A striker playing out wide that wants a chance up front. Welbeck getting a chance before him may sting a little.

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    Also, I have a feeling Theo will be on his way out of the club soon.
    Funny, I was thinking that too. But then again, if he can find his feet quickly and we can get that front line firing and Wenger can get a bit more adventurous with his formation then there's a place for him. I'm also wondering if the FA and Wenger have something cooking. There has been a concerted effort of late to bring British (particularly English) players in and keep them at the club. It reminds me of Utd a couple of decades back. Is Arsene laying the ground for his next job once his contract here is up? Just a feeling I get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    the greatest pleasure i have taken in football is watching Welbeck play for England, watching him make a pigs ear of every chance he ever gets, his rotten first touch breaking down promising attacks etc and thinking ha this cretin plays for Man United....i feel like someone has died today.
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    Where would Theo go?

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    City would buy him for sure. Although not upfront.

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    Whats your formation with him on the team?

    Chezza

    Debuchy Kos Per Gibbs

    Santi Ramsey Ox

    Walcott Welbeck Sanchez

    No defensive midfielder against the shit teams. When playing the big sides, put in Flamini/Arteta/Chambers in place of Ox and if needed Santi as well. How many times this team is going to be fit to play is another question of course!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    hoping he's out for the rest of the season and then we can sell him on, or operate a release clause in his contract
    Behave!

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    this signing is actually starting to grow on me. I think there is a place in the team for him, he is mobile and works hard which is a good start. and finishing is one thing that can be worked especially composure as they gain experience. so all is not lost.

    defensively we are buggered though.

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