How do you feel?

[Xhaka Can’t]

The club is a corporation now in every sense. The absolute desire to win has long gone. The absolute desire to milk every conceivable profit is thriving. It's still fun to watch players like Alexis and Ox, but the fun is offset a thousandfold by everything else at the club. Our manager stopped taking responsibility a long time ago, he did the same today. He tried to pretend we were just unlucky (for about the 20th time against Utd).

As it turns out, this club died when we switched stadiums. The business blossomed into a monster though. Arsenal is becoming a powerhouse in terms of finances and the team will continue to hover around the also-ran spots. But there's nobody at the club with the will to drive things forward, on the pitch at least. If you look at it from the outside, as fans increasingly have to do these days, you have owners, board members, senior staff and a bunch of kids (the players) all rolling around in more cash than they know what to do with. Meanwhile the rest of us enjoy "we are all in it together" austerity measures and half of us are priced out of the games even if we wanted to go. This is what happens when money becomes the purpose of sport.

It's not just football. Boxing, what a joke that is now. Formula 1, the double points farce happens tomorrow. It'll be the first time I won't be watching a race for longer than I can remember. I don't think anyone cares who wins the driver's championship, just as I doubt anyone bar the plastics themselves give a damn whether it will be the chavs or gypos who end up top of the pile. Football got bought from under the fans and now it's not football. Just look at the quality of the players on display. Some of them can't kick a fucking ball and they;re being paid millions not to be able to do it. It;s a farce. Eventually even the most ardent fan wakes up to it.

even if we went on a winning run until the end of the season, if we're still playing the same shit we have seen so far then I'm not interested. My primary requirement from any sport is that I be entertained, preferably on the edge of my seat with heart pounding and barely able to watch. Just how far away are we from that ideal at the moment? about as far as we can get. This team is unrecognisable from what we became used to when the trophies were rolling in and, much more importantly, the football was a joy to watch. There's nothing to watch now, except maybe the odd moment from the odd player. We've seen the same old shit so many times it just fades into the grey, corporate background.

We need football to collapse into one giant ruin and then struggle back to a much more humble version of the sport that's connected to the fans. Not sure if it can happen but with the likes of FIFA in charge there has to be a fair change of at least a giant ruin.

Nailed it.

[Xhaka Can’t]

My love of Arsenal, like the love of anything in this life, comes from a mutual and unspoken respect. The reason why fans suffer with a club, is because the club used to suffer with them.

Win, lose of draw, the manager, the players and the fans were in it together.

That has long since been lost from football, especially in the top flight. You can identify with something that doesn't give a fuck about you in return. In the same way you don't admire a theif or a bully.

My connection with Arsenal has been more about friends and family who have a shared affiliation with the club, these last few years. My connection with Arsenal is only there because of the past.

Much like any money orientated, plastic product designed to placate mindless couched potatoes, Arsenal has become everything I hate about modern society. The one thing that kept me watching was that hope that the team would somehow cut above that sewer of corporate slime and do it for me / us.

Sadly, those days are gone too. How can you love something that doesn't give a fuck back? That's what really hurts. Results are just results.

Again, brilliant.

The two posts I've quoted perfectly sum up how I feel.

[AFC Leveller]

This was predictable yet surprising at the same time considering the chances we had and the shite we were up against. Man u bent over in the first half and begged us to fuck them, they were all over the place. However as someone said, the Man u badge seemes to scare the shite out of the Arsenal players and even more so the manager with his lack of tactical changes and motivation.

Cannot belive we lost to those cunts yet deep down i knew we would somehow fuck it up.

[Power n Glory]

Nailed it.

Almost. Despite the bullshit and corruption seen in F1 and Boxing, I can still get excited by a good race or fight. The basics haven't gone out the window.

I can't say the same for Arsenal. It's been a soul destroying transition to the Emirates. Draining. I see it when I talk to fellow supporters, you can hear it on hear...shit...just take a look at Arsenal Fan TV this morning and you can see it. The rage is gone and we're just worn out.

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah I just watched the AFTV videos and they can't even be bothered to rant. Claude and that other bloke who had the meltdown after the Villa defeat just seem so badly exasperated they've reached an acceptance that this is our lot now, nothing will change.

[AFC Leveller]

The manager need sto be told that this is not acceptable and that his job is under threat.
The amount of times we lost like we did yesterday by being picked up on the counter and leaving space in behind (whether we are wining or losing) has taken its toll and to make matter worse the manager says he doesnt know why we lost.

[AFC Leveller]

Yeah I just watched the AFTV videos and they can't even be bothered to rant. Claude and that other bloke who had the meltdown after the Villa defeat just seem so badly exasperated they've reached an acceptance that this is our lot now, nothing will change.

Agree mate. Fans have had enough, noone is realy angry after defeats anymore, just a familiar feeling of being let down and taking for granted.

[selassie]

Helpless, but also resigned to the fact this is how it will be until his contract is up. Sad thing is I knew we would lose yesterday, I called it in the pre-match thread.

Nothing else to say really, its been covered already.