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Thread: Arsenal vs Ludogorets Razgrad UCL Wednesday 19th October KO: 19:45 GMT

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    Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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    or i could list every game he's played where we have conceded goals and a more competent goalkeeper would have done better

    From January 11th to the end of the season in May 2015, Ospina was in goal for every league game

    We conceded 12 goals in 18 games which was a pretty good record (but far more credit to our defence) but about 10 of those goals were preventable but for Ospina.

    Both of Harry Kanes goals at White Hart Lane for example were Ospina's fault and his shocking punches often put the ball back into the danger area and created constant spurs pressure.


    Punching too often, rashly coming out of goal, palming the ball into his own net....poor distribution on top of this made the job for our defence even more difficult and it is a testament to how well our defence performed that we conceded so few...because they were a clean up crew for his shortcomings.

    When he plays for Colombia it's often the same story....plus i see him concede so many goals at his near post.

    Sczesny is a muppet make no mistake, but the reason Ospina is the back up and not him is because of Szczesny's attitude not because Ospina is a better keeper.

    Frankly if Cech isn't playing i'd much rather us play Emiliano Martinez
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    That's a tough one. You've only picked out two goals and robbed him of any credit for a good defence record. Hard to argue against such resolute evidence your honour.

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    I gave one example but if you want others

    I could give you the example of the games against swansea and west brom where he helped the ball into the goal

    The goal charlie austin scored against us at loftus road where his positioning was poor, his positioning was equally poor for the Ander Herrera goal in the 1-1 draw against United at Old Trafford

    the goal where he pushed the ball back into the path of Glenn Murray against Crystal Palace

    The goal Stephen Quinn headed in against us for Hull where he was statuesque

    And those are just off the top of the head. I praise the defence because like I say they had to put out a lot of fires which his poor distribution, over punching and inability to claim caused.

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    Even against PSG he caused just as many problems as he solved, came out too rashly far too often and Cavani went round him only to find an empty net.

    His lack of height meant that he had to be bailed out aerially, and his lucklustre distribution just invited PSG pressure onto us again.

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    I just looked at one of those, the Stephen Quinn goal, laughed and realised there's no point arguing against bias. Guess we all have it about some players, Arsenal or otherwise.

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    It's not bias, he reacted too slowly....it was a powerful header but wasn't travelling quick enough that he couldn't have got a hand to it. No it's not a massive goalkeeping error, but it's savable and like i said my assertion was that most of the goals we conceded with Ospina between the sticks i would argue that at the very least he could have done better with.

    although in fairness, the reason i think Sczesny and Cech would have saved those is because they have longer arms and are five inches taller than the Colombian

    Let's be rational though, we know how Stubborn Wenger is over players, he played him in goal for half a season and if he was in anyway convinced by Ospina he wouldn't have bought Petr Cech it's really as simple as that.

    Ospina isn't good enough for Arsenal, not even as a backup
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    Fecking hate Ludo.

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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Fecking hate Ludo.
    Harsh...


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    Going off the usual prediction and say 2-0 win. Dont want to overdo my good juju of 0-3 losses.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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