Everton vs Arsenal 17.09.2023 KO: 16:30

[HCZ_Reborn]

At least you got the teams the right way round this time

Not sure who you're playing where with some of that, but I get where you are going with that lineup - I hate Dyke with a passion but he totally has the number of a naive idiot like Arteta and the only way we have a ghost of a chance of winning is to play a more different, hungry, gritty team (or as much as we have one)

But much as I like Jesus he is wrong for this game, plus Rice will give us more resilience, so for me you have him in left 8 with Vieira in the Odegaard role

Why would you have someone who can’t pass the ball well in the no8 role?

Jesus would be playing wide right, and with Everton playing a deep block defensively potential takes a lot of players out of the game and lays the ball on for Edward or Trossard plus a hard worker like Nelson who will be persistent in winning the ball back high up the pitch.

Jorginho can pass the ball therefore he plays instead of Rice

[The Wengerbabies]

Fuck this bogey team. Must win!

Is Partey still out?

Ramsdale, White, Saliba. Gabriel, Zinchenko, Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Saka, Jesus, Martinelli

[HCZ_Reborn]

So last time we won at Goodison Park was 22nd October 2017. Not a single player from that team or on the bench is still with us.

For Everton four of their XI lineup are still at the club - Pickford, Keane, Gueye and Calvert-Lewin


The last time we got a point from Goodison Park was the 21st December 2019

Four players in the squad are still at the club - Saka, Martinelli, Nelson and Smith Rowe


Only three players in the Everton squad from that day are still playing for the club - Calvert Lewin, Keane and Pickford


No point being made here, just that both sides have gone through massive personnel overhaul in the last few years. The 0-0 game was actually on in the background when I was at the barbers as I remember, utterly dull game with hardly any chances for either side and the only slightly interesting fact was that both Ancelotti and Arteta had both been appointed as coaches for Everton and Arsenal respectively but neither were in place at the time (in fact I think both watched the game in the stands and Ferguson and Ljungberg were in the dug out)


Dyche and Arteta have a head to head record of two wins a piece and three draws


Burnley 0-0 Arsenal February 2020
Arsenal 0-1 Burnley December 2020
Burnley 1-1 Arsenal March 2021
Burnley 0-1 Arsenal September 2021
Arsenal 0-0 Burnley January 2022
Everton 1-0 Arsenal February 2023
Arsenal 4-0 Everton March 2023


If today is indicative of what’s gone before, probably might be as well not to expect too many goals

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Raya and Vieira start.

[Marc Overmars]

Ramsdale.

[Marc Overmars]

Jesus not starting is a bit odd though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton: Pickford, Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Onana, Doucoure, Gueye, Danjuma, Beto, McNeil.
Subs: Virginia, Patterson, Keane, Godfrey, Garner, Dobbin, Onyango, Chermiti, Calvert-Lewin.

Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Rice, Vieira, Odegaard, Saka, Martineli, Nketiah.
Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Jorginho, Havertz, Trossard, Smith Rowe, Nelson, Jesus.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Jesus not starting is a bit odd though.

Quite possibly he’s not fully fit.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I’m not against Raya playing but I do think Ramsdale is being harshly treated and Arteta is looking more at statistics about clean sheets than his individual performances. The reason we’ve not kept a clean sheet at home is because we hold a high line and someone in midfield invariably plays a Harikari pass.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think Raya is just being given a game because he'll play on Wednesday.