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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Deep down, fans are romantics. Bring in Adams, you'll see a newfound optimism around the place. That alone may see us through. The patience that Adams will command after every poor result, the very personal feeling that every win will bring to our manager (and it won't just be to add a couple of zeroes to his paycheck), the passion, the guts, the glory, the determination that 'Mr Arsenal' will no doubt bring to his side.

    We may not hit the dizzy heights of football that we played under Wenger between 2002 and 2004 but what we will see is action, pure and simple. An improvement of how to play. Trial and error (f***in 'ell, if zonal marking didn't work for Benitez at Liverpool 5 f***in years ago, why the f*** is Wenger trying to re-introduce it now?!) and finding the best, well-rounded tactical option. Playing to the strengths and weaknesses of the OPPOSITION and not just approaching a game with a bloody-minded, unilateral view of your OWN team.

    Bring in Adams, and I might just start looking forward to winter weekends again.
    This post is confusing. We'd be terrible under Adams, far worse than we are now. He's not a manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Deep down, fans are romantics. Bring in Adams, you'll see a newfound optimism around the place. That alone may see us through. The patience that Adams will command after every poor result, the very personal feeling that every win will bring to our manager (and it won't just be to add a couple of zeroes to his paycheck), the passion, the guts, the glory, the determination that 'Mr Arsenal' will no doubt bring to his side.

    We may not hit the dizzy heights of football that we played under Wenger between 2002 and 2004 but what we will see is action, pure and simple. An improvement of how to play. Trial and error (f***in 'ell, if zonal marking didn't work for Benitez at Liverpool 5 f***in years ago, why the f*** is Wenger trying to re-introduce it now?!) and finding the best, well-rounded tactical option. Playing to the strengths and weaknesses of the OPPOSITION and not just approaching a game with a bloody-minded, unilateral view of your OWN team.

    Bring in Adams, and I might just start looking forward to winter weekends again.
    You seem to be under the impression Tony Adams would be an old-school manager. And he's not, he's just as heavily in to the science of football as Wenger.

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    Adams.

    No thanks.

    Someone like Benitez or Ancelotti would be fine with me. In fact I would not object at all if Gazidis called Rafa up tomorrow and asked if he was interested. The only problem would be that he'd need a fair bit of cash, would the board be willing to give it to him?

    I think we're on a very slippery slope with Wenger now. He is the textbook definition of a manager living off past glories. Putting all sentiments aside, he is consistently proving to be unable to get the best out of this group of players.

    There's nothing knee-jerk about it anymore, today is just another in the long list of inexplicably bad collapses, it's happened too many times now and the club should act, if it has any pride left. I know it would be very hard to say goodbye to Wenger but life goes on and ultimatley the club is bigger and more important than him.

    Oh and if we're going to replace from the Prem, Moyes would be the best bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Are you mental? You want us to bring in a man who has a track record of being a terrible manager?
    Look, every manager has pros and cons. Wenger hasn't left the club in such a rosy state as he would've done if he'd have walked with a little dignity in 2006 or 2007. At the minute, we're calling for;

    Mourinho- ain't gonna leave his job
    Guardiola- sure as f*** ain't leaving Catalunia
    Hiddink- probably wouldn't manage any other team in England other than Chelsea if the rumours of his close relationship with Abramovich are true
    O'Neill- great motivator, but a huge percentage of Arsenal fans would consider him a very risky option
    Benitez- great with Valencia and when he started out with the Scousers but wilted dramatically in his latter days at 'Pool, reinforced by the shite we saw at the San Siro last season
    van Gaal- not too sure, but he seems a comfortable bet. If proven track record and realistic target is what we're after, Huey Louis might just be our man.
    Ancelotti- is he managing again? Anyways, another safe option, but people will probably still have that diabolical mid-season Chelsea suffered last term in the back of their minds.
    Graham- proven, but old. Will he be able to cope with the modern game? The relative success of Dalglish at Liverpool suggests "yes"
    Adams- unproven, but hungry. This IS the pot at the end of the rainbow that he's after and, personally, having someone like him at the helm would re-ignite my interest in football
    Bergkamp- needs coaching badges from what I understand, but the one player, other than Adams, who loves the club so dearly (obviously, this isn't much to go on because, when all is said and done, I honestly do believe that Wenger holds Arsenal FC in great esteem)

    I think we're all thinking about TWO possible managerial options. We're 2 poor results away (within the next 5 games) from being in a serious relegation dogfight. We may need a manager to "tide us over" and then a more established chap to take over next summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Look, every manager has pros and cons.
    Apart from Adams.

    Who only has cons so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Adams .

    Maybe as Gunnersaurus' assistant, but nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Apart from Adams.

    Who only has cons so far.
    Fairy nuff. Footy's all about opinion after all.

    I suppose I fall into the same bracket of fans as the Chelsea lot who were calling for Mark Hughes to take over at Stamford Bridge after Mourinho had left, in spite of the fact that they had the choosing of a range of top European managers.

    Romantics, like I say
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    If we're going for a long term Manager who we are prepared to give time & financial backing then I would go for someone like Jurgen Klopp (Dortmund) or Unai Emery (Valencia).

    If we're looking at a short term fix to get us by until someone else can come in and fix up the mess then I would look no further than Guus Hiddink.

    Whoever takes on the job is going to have a hard task, the squad is in real poor shape at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    the squad is in real poor shape at the moment.
    I don't think it is. I think they're a pretty good bunch of players.

    But something is terribly, terribly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    Fairy nuff. Footy's all about opinion after all.

    I suppose I fall into the same bracket of fans as the Chelsea lot who were calling for Mark Hughes to take over at Stamford Bridge after Mourinho had left, in spite of the fact that they had the choosing of a range of top European managers.

    Romantics, like I say
    As members of the Mindless Optimism Clique™, I'd like to think me, GP and Maccy are quite the romantics.

    But if even we're completely ruling out the notion of Adams managing us, I think you have to accept that you're probably a bit mental, in regards to this situation.

    (And Hughes had done a decent job at Blackburn and had alot more experience before that too.)
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