Originally Posted by Ach
and in the last year, apart from gervinho who can still come good, he has brought pretty dam well
Ox Chamberlain was good, the rest I'd happily have left and signed some top quality instead.
That's near enough 41 million, for that we could have signed maybe 2-3 quality players, if we played our cards right.
i might be worng here but pretty sure you said merts was top quality before (might have been someone else htough)
arteta, merts, ox were great signings who aided us massively, santos did well and so did yossi. gervinho can still come good and with a hundred cap international striker and another decent striker he is buying well atm. if it wasnt for rvp, we would have very strong squad
IMO those players aren't the kind of players that are going to help us win trophies...good if you want 4th place but if you're setting your sights higher you need players a level above.
Never been a fan of Mertesacker, find him slow and cumbersome...a player with decent pace leaves him for dead.
From the link i posted above
Season 12/13
Lukas Podolski £11,000,000
Olivier Giroud £13,000,000
Season 11/12
Carl Jenkinson - Shit
Gervinho - Shit
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - Young and might come good but not what was needed in the short term
Joel Campbell - Shit
Park Chu-Young -
André Santos - Had his moments but could have got better
Mikel Arteta - Average
Per Mertesacker - Looked good before injury
Thomas Eisfeld - Who?
Cant comment on Giroud or Pod as neither have played for us
So id say thats more than Gervinho being shit
I know you are Ollie The Optmist but i think you are over-egging most of those players. I dont agree that Merts aided us massively at all neither did Arteta although he did get good for the last five or six games that he played. Ox who is going to be very good hardly played. Gervinho and Park were poor
but they are players that give you the best foundations to build a title winning team, players who work hard, regular conssitnet good performances who allow those with the talent to push you further.
look at united, they dont have many world class players like messi etc, but what they have is 10 players who are willing to give everything to the shirt, and allow the world class players to do what htye do best. we are building on that now, if rvp hadnt fucked it up. we dont need a team of 11 messis, we need a team of 8/9 artetas with two world class players.
Man U have Ferguson, he motivates players and gets the best out of average players but even he could not work his magic with his current team which has plenty of average players.
I don't think those players are the players you build the foundations of a winning team on, I think the foundations come from your top players and are enhanced by finding players who complement them.
They always use to say a top team has a strong spine, we don't seem to follow that rule.
7 years after moving to the emirates the last thing we should be talking about is building foundations. we had 7 years to build a foundation, and tbh we should be challenging for the title now, yet we are worse off. in fact, we let a solid foundation of players go in 07/08; we had sagna, toure, cesc, gallas, hleb, adebayor, flamini, eduardo, song, a half fit van persie. thats what i call a good foundation. where are a majority of those players now? why is our squad getting worse year on year? why are we still experiencing the same problems seven years into the stadium move? why do we keep 'building foundations', only for us to go back to square one?
i understand building a title winning team is not as easy as clicking your fingers but theoretically, we should be challenging for the title, if we go by what our board told us prior to the stadium move; that a new stadium will provide a greater opportunity to compete with the elite clubs. instead we are in the middle of a civil war and are constantly underusing our resources.
7 years into the stadium move, we are still talking about building a foundation. to me thats not good enough.
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