At the end of the season, Arsene Wenger should bow out gracefully with his head held high.
Wenger.
At the end of the season, Arsene Wenger should bow out gracefully with his head held high.
Wenger.
NQ if your interested in seeing why things aren't working on the pitch then your going to have to start looking at each players strengths and weaknesses. Practice can only go so far and the one thing we need to realise is that certain players aren't built to play in certain key positions. If you can't dribble, you have no business playing on the wings and it's a waste of time trying to build on that skill set when that particular player has spent his whole life training in another position. What your suggesting is oversimple.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
When we play Stoke City, do you think the manager is going to try and out play us and get his players practicing intricate passes and dribbling techniques? No. The sign of a good manager is working with the tools he has and putting it to good use. Certain managers know they have a limited lump on the field that will neve be world class but they can at least make them effiecient and useful for the team. That's all I want Wenger to do but this obsession with getting turning everyone on the field into a complete player is overindulgent. It's so bad, our defenders have to have some sort of technique and passing skill because Wenger won't allow them to boot the ball clear.
It's a jack of all trades but master of none type of situation. I'm not saying they shoudln't practice, just saying of you look at the strengths and weaknesses of certain players, you start seeing why they suck in certain positions. When you start looking at things like that, then you get on to formations and stuff like that. Don't dismiss that sort of thing. It's why the English league and national team has lagged behind for so long. There is a lack of respect for it and seem to thing everything boils down to passion and energy. I don't think we have a lazy team our there. It's just energy being wasted.
And you can piss off as well. All you do is WUM and then try to ban people. Contribute something worthwhile to the discussion or just go to bed.
Boring.At the end of the season, Arsene Wenger should bow out gracefully with his head held high.
Wenger.
Considering he's become a WUM of Ach and Letters' standard in recent times, it would be awesome to see him bow out in spectacular disgrace. Go big or go home, as N_Q has often said.
Arsene WUMger.
I'm not saying the game ends with the players being able to kick a ball. But I think they ought to be able to do that before getting into the more complicated stuff. It's unreal how poor we are in the final third this season.
You give Theo the ball in acres of space on the flank and he doesn't need to dribble or beat anyone. But when he has time and space he still can't deliver. You talk about trying him in the central role, but on the few occasions he's played there, mostly for England, he's looked hopelessly out of his depth and his movement is predictable and unintelligent. Yes I know he scored that hat-trick. Maybe it would have been better for him if he never had. Players like RvP, Aguero and still Henry by the look of it have the smarts to find the space, to offer themselves to the midfielder or wide man trying to feed the ball through. You watch Chamakh and Walcott in the box. If there's a wrong place and a wrong time they'll find it.
As for Arshavin, if he can't be bothered doing the leg work on the flank then why is he going to run twice as hard behind the main striker? We could try it I suppose. How many games of him doing nothing would it take to call it a bust? Nobody is judging these guys on a few performances. It's over seasons now, they just haven't been performing at a level that's going to move the team beyond the ordinary we've seen over and over. They are random, inconsistent, unconvincing, they quit, they become anonymous in games. Now and again they pull something out of the bag that reminds us there's talent there but that just makes it all the more frustrating. Saying they are playing out of position doesn't explain their lack of character on the pitch. Unless you think they are sulking, in which case they should get the fuck out anyway.
What I'd like is for the board and the manager to get together in the summer and bring some proper talent in to help the handful of decent players we have. And I'd like to see plenty of players shipped out in that process. But I honestly don't think that's going to happen (apart from players being shipped out, the decent ones anyway). Transfer profits have been squirrelled away for how many years now? Time to put something back in because our quality has dropped well below the danger level.
I'm not against mixing things up a bit in the meantime but with players like Walcott, Chamakh, Arshavin and increasingly Gervinho (although it's his first season so maybe judgement is reserved) I just don't see it making much difference. And we also have players like Wilshere who was run into the ground, now the same thing is happening to Ramsey. We're short of decent players. We all know it and somebody needs to do something about it.
It'll be crazy if we don't get a striker in this window to help RvP out. Even a journeyman, anyone who knows how to do the basics, has a bit of experience and could nick a few goals. Then ship Theo and Arshavin out in the summer and get decent replacements. I know both of these guys provide assists, but they also fuck it up at a rate of 5-1 and that's why we've been throwing the points away again this season. Not because Theo is playing out of position, but because he's just not that great a player.
The real problems may still be ahead. Statistically RvP is unlikely to go the full season uninjured. What the fuck are we going to do if we lose him? Then we'll have to call on Theo or Arshavin or Chamakh or Park. The fact I have more faith in Park (which is close to none at all), a guy that hasn't played so far says it all really.
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Nah too late for that. Should have gone in 2004 as a champion and his place in our history would have been unflawed. Now when people think of Wenger in 50 years, it'll be like "isnt he the guy who took a team to the title undefeated and then got them relegated within 10 years? What a dumbass"At the end of the season, Arsene Wenger should bow out gracefully with his head held high.
Wenger.
Should have got in another unknown manager in 2004 by the name of Jose Mourinho and we'd be sitting here having won the CL at least once
Spot on.
If I wanted to bad people I would
I have IIP you see.
What I said was perfectly legitimate, Wenger's making some baffling decisions but internet forums isn't where he should be looking for 'advice'.
Would have been far more interesting to see the board fuck off in 2004 and decent owners come in.
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