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    Quote Originally Posted by Injury Time View Post
    Anyway back OT Wilshire to move into a deeper roll to replace Arteta according to some rag...unless the fags and booze have helped him improve his tackling I can't see it myself
    It's an option for him if he wants game time but he'll have to simplify his game and protect the ball better, which he did poorly last season. It's something he'll have to develop and it could work but I doubt he'd be happy with that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injury Time View Post
    Anyway back OT Wilshire to move into a deeper roll to replace Arteta according to some rag...unless the fags and booze have helped him improve his tackling I can't see it myself
    I'd actually love to see him move back into a deeper role - not at the expense of an extra midfielder coming in, of course, as I don't think there's a long term future there for 3 or 4 of out current options, but I definitely think it's the best fit for Wilshere's game.

    Also worth considering Rosicky in a deeper role too, IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    He barely got enough minutes! How can you say he was shit based on that? Again, I'm not saying he is a Suarez but he is not the worst striker in the world as made out to be. Anyone who scores 20+ goals and about 10 assists a season is a good footballer. Yes, his shoulders dropped and he looked lazy (tired?) towards the later half of the season but he is a good striker to have. I have confidence that he can and will get better with better players around him.
    He'd been bright coming off the bench in 1 or 2 of the earlier games but when he became trusted and got his start against an average Nigeria he was appalling, totally inept. France looked to have no idea on how to break them down, just like us for most of last season. As soon as he was subbed for Griezmann and Benzema moved to CF everything changed. They started linking up and it lead to the goals.

    Proved to me that were handicapping ourselves. His best role in plan B off the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's an option for him if he wants game time but he'll have to simplify his game and protect the ball better, which he did poorly last season. It's something he'll have to develop and it could work but I doubt he'd be happy with that position.
    He has (sort of) already played that role for us - in that year where he first really broke into the side (2010-11?) he was in a midfield 3 with Fabregas and Song, and very often ended up as the furthest man back as Song regularly swanned off to join the attack. And he was really good at it too - wasn't he voted our player of the year that year, as well as PFA young player of the year, and voted to the PFA team of the season? Obviously he's lost his way a little since then, largely through injuries, but I honestly think that we need to get him back into that kind of role again, if we ever want to see him back to his best - having the game in front of him just seems to suit him better than waiting for it to come to him higher up the pitch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    He has (sort of) already played that role for us - in that year where he first really broke into the side (2010-11?) he was in a midfield 3 with Fabregas and Song, and very often ended up as the furthest man back as Song regularly swanned off to join the attack. And he was really good at it too - wasn't he voted our player of the year that year, as well as PFA young player of the year, and voted to the PFA team of the season? Obviously he's lost his way a little since then, largely through injuries, but I honestly think that we need to get him back into that kind of role again, if we ever want to see him back to his best - having the game in front of him just seems to suit him better than waiting for it to come to him higher up the pitch...
    Of course. Before his injury, I’d have no qualms about Wilshere playing that role but based on what I’ve seen of him recently, I fear he’s too reckless and gungho. Back before his injury, he’d easily skip past or spin an opponent and then lay off the simple pass. It was a thing to watch. He had the awareness and sharpness to play on the half turn, to always be on the pivot. These days, he gets caught in possession on the turn a lot, goes down easily from slight contact and overplays with the dribbling. It’s not impossible for him to tone down the dribble attempts. I except him to be aware of the position he’s playing and having to adjust his game but it’s the bad habits he’s picked I’m not so sure about. He’s also not that strong physically and needs to work on his tactical positioning. It’s a big risk.

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    Wenget has said himself he sees Wheelchair as a deep lying player, someone who can distribute the ball and begin attacks. To play that role though you also need to be able to tackle and have the nack of intercepting at the right times.

    At the moment he's got too many bad habits, this is a big year for him, people have already started to notice his lack of development so another season on the shelf would be very damaging. He's old news now, needs to make himself relevant again with some of those stellar 2011 performances.
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    Jack's best position is in the deep lying playmaker role. When we beat Barca he was instrumental at linking play and providing the platform for our attacking play.

    As the DM? God no. He hasn't grasped the art of tackling. He'd be the type of DM that would give away fouls every time he goes in for a tackle, similar to Scholes. Plus he's made of glass and he really isn't suited for it.

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    We'll get torn apart by the big teams if we have Wilshere anchoring our midfield or even Wilshere and Ramsey lining up together in Central Midfield without a strong physical presence.

    I am hoping these rumours of us not going back in the market for a Midfielder are just rumours, sticking Wilshere there is square pegs in round holes IMO.

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    I think Wenger will consider trying it but more as a last resort. The game is played far simpler from that position too, even if losing the ball is far more grave so perhaps Wilshere can again come into his own playing there.

    I don't like the fact it would be more as a result of failing to secure a transfer target than a real belief in Wilshere being our DCM though. Wilshere doesn't really have any aerial presence to speak of so at this rate, Wenger will play Giroud and never take him off:

    Walcott, Sanchez, Cazorla, OxO, Gnabry, Podolski
    Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky.....

    Diaby

    Not the biggest team we've ever assembled besides the Fabled Frenchman and not one of those guys really dominates in the air. Sneezy is perfecting his technique of hitting the back of Giroud's head as we speak......

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    We'll get torn apart by the big teams if we have Wilshere anchoring our midfield or even Wilshere and Ramsey lining up together in Central Midfield without a strong physical presence.

    I am hoping these rumours of us not going back in the market for a Midfielder are just rumours, sticking Wilshere there is square pegs in round holes IMO.
    Honestly, I don't see how Wilshere will fit in the DM, perhaps going as an understudy to a QUALITY DM for a season (i.e. not Arteta or Flamini) would be a better approach. However throwing him in the deep end is a risk we do not need to take.

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