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Thread: Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

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    The conundrum our club has become is one of great annoyance and great wonder to me, its one that fans of other clubs just can’t comprehend and one that poorly informed football pundits love to throw ill constructed sound bites of bullshit and hyperbole at.

    It’s an interesting thread as most seem to want Wenger (and the board) out but the varying degrees of hatred thrown at him are astounding. Some seem to want a man who won us 3 league titles, 4 FA cups and Remi Garde burned at the stake. Some thank him for everything he has done and wish him well.

    Most agree the team isn’t good enough but do we mean quality or application? And its this for me that is the underlying issue with our club. We have the ability, the quality, the money, the infrastructure and the facilities what we don’t have is the leadership and nuance to apply it correctly. We are like a one-eyed sniper; we always shoot just wide of the target.

    I don’t see much difference between our transfer activity now and back when we were good, I don’t see any difference in the tactical approach or the substitutions either, they are still crap. I don’t see any difference in diet, fitness; squad size or any of the other things Wenger “invented” either. I just see that everyone else caught up, and in some cases overtook us. We used to be able to hand pick the best youngsters from around the world, now we are way back in the cue. Do you think if Patrick Vieira had been stuck in Milan’s reserves now we would be his first choice? Of course not. It’s the same with Henry, Anelka and all the rest.

    While everyone else was improving we were banking to pay for the stadium, while the sugar daddy’s were buying clubs ours was at a baseball game stroking is perfectly formed tash. While the comolli’s and Arnesen’s were tapping up our players, our tapperupperer…was counting his silver coins.
    Change the manager, please, but a change in application of resource is needed more and until the board either die or get usurped nothing will change.

    And no, bringing David Dein back is not the answer…his son is an agent you know…Alex Song and Sami Nasri’s agent…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    Arsene should have moved on 5 years ago. He would certainly of had a better 5yrs but I don't think Arsenal would have done.
    He's the manager if his team don't deliver it's down to him, you make it sound like he's been hard done by.

    Had he gone somewhere else the job would have been riskier for sure, Real wouldn't have put up with his cr*p and after a season of not winning anything he might have found himself out of a job. It was all very good when he knew markets better than anyone else, nowadays though he's not exactly the messiah when it comes to spotting top players, if anything he's spent badly in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    He's the manager if his team don't deliver it's down to him, you make it sound like he's been hard done by.
    Well he stayed loyal to Arsenal or couldn't be arsed to move to Real Madrid cos he'd be found out - depending on which side of the fence you sit on.

    Either way it's like you're working for Amstrad and get offered a job at Apple but you stay at Amstrad for whatever reason.

    He is the manager and it is his team but he has significantly less resources to build his team compared to the competition.

    He should have moved on but I still don't think we'd have been any more successful if we'd of had a different manager for the past 7 years. We won't have to wait long to see how well our next manager does compared to Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    He's the manager if his team don't deliver it's down to him, you make it sound like he's been hard done by.

    Had he gone somewhere else the job would have been riskier for sure, Real wouldn't have put up with his cr*p and after a season of not winning anything he might have found himself out of a job.
    This is why he would have no choice but to win. The aim is diffrent he would not go there thinking he has time to build a team or he can make excuses. Its only cause he has been allowed to do that here.

    He goes to a team like PSG. He'd have no choice but to spend money he won't have the chance to be like he has here. But lets be honest Madrid sack managers for anything.

    Seems like Jose will go end of this season thats just the Madrid way.
    "I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    He should have moved on but I still don't think we'd have been any more successful if we'd of had a different manager for the past 7 years.
    maybe we wouldn't be any more successful but at least we could've have avoided groundhog day every other week.

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    There was something different in his eyes post match today.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoeLDG View Post
    There was something different in his eyes post match today.
    Little bit resigned in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoeLDG View Post
    There was something different in his eyes post match today.
    How'd ya mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead View Post
    How'd ya mean?
    Lets just say, that team tonight, was picked for a reason.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    He won't be around for much longer. The pressure will get to him.

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