Yep agree with this.Originally Posted by Zerlathon
I also agree with Blink 1nce Quince 2wice in that at the moment it seems that Wenger is trying this method due to failing to acquire his principal transfer targets in this position.
Yep agree with this.
I also agree with Blink 1nce Quince 2wice in that at the moment it seems that Wenger is trying this method due to failing to acquire his principal transfer targets in this position.
Certainly looks that way. The DM transfer talk has died down and Wenger did hint at looking for internal solutions for midfield. I just always thought he’d gamble on Diaby again or see how Coquelin gets on in the preseason. I suppose trying Jack is a better option than that but it sucks to hear this sort of talk. The season ahead will be tough and I don't see the need to gamble like this.
We cannot allow this to happen, esp not this season after doing our business early and building on our FA cup win. Man u, City, Chelsea and Liverpool have (or will) all strengthened and we cannot stand still anymore.
I dont think Diaby can play in the DCM role. one of the first things the role needs is ability to receive and pass the ball quickly, Diaby's biggest problem (after injuries) is that he dwells on the bal for too long.
Guys,
We're not "allowing" it to happen. Recently we've tried to sign Suarez (Liverpool wouldn't honour the contract), Khedira (wanted to be paid his wages and everyone else's wages), Remy (just LOL at his demands), Draxler (wants to stay where he is), plus other top class players and we actually have signed Ozil and Sanchez. Just be thankful we aren't Utd otherwise we'd be listening to countless snubs and reflecting on the fact we signed Fellaini. Lots of time to go until the window closes.
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I don’t think it’s impossible for Jack or Diaby to be converted, I just don’t see why we’re being such cheapskates. It’s not really worth mentioning Diaby. I’m just hoping he gets through this season without any major injuries. Wherever he plays, he’s going to be very rusty.
Diaby doesn't have the natural sensibilities to play there, I would agree. As Lev says, he dwells on the ball way too long which strikes me as one of those things the most talented kid in the park does. Diaby hasn't had the uninterrupted time to curb that habit and unlike when he was 14, he will now find himself in the midst of tough premier league games.
If the season started tomorrow I'd play Arteta (I know he isn't popular here) and would be looking to replace him late on with Rosicky.
We shouldn't forget that Wenger has already experimented with playing Ramsey and Jack in the 2 in front of the back line so it isn't as far fetched an idea as you might think, but he clearly doesn't think it is ideal, hence the pursuit of a DCM for 2 summers now.
Besides Flam, we don’t have anyone that can naturally play the role. Arteta had to adapt and it’s not impossible for Jack or Diaby but we just shouldn’t be doing that. These sort of experiments require time and patience because there is a learning curve and there will be mistakes made by the players. But we shouldn’t be in this position. Let the fringe players fight to get into the first team and prove themselves. Don’t shoehorn them into a position that should be filled by a much better player that’s more suitable for that role.
Arteta is the most disciplined midfielder in the squad, by a long way. And he still gets stick for it.
I'm not saying we can't improve on Arteta in the holding role, but we could certainly do a lot worse i.e. Jack or Diaby.
Disciplined or limited. Fine line IMO.
If disciplined means Can't run for toffee, Can't tackle for shit. Then yes he's disciplined. He is no DM However.
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