Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Letters]

2nd, 5th, 6th, 10th it doesn't matter to me I want him out and have for quite a while

So noted. Now this is the thread about transfers. How about we talk about that, not reduce every single thread to whining about that.

[Özim]

So noted. Now this is the thread about transfers. How about we talk about that, not reduce every single thread to whining about that.

Ok let's do it.



I'd love to talk about transfer but (as usual) there's not much to talk about really as there's none happening, should we talk about other clubs' transfers like some people have been doing as it seems to be the only transfer activity there it to talk about?

I have to say it but where's the sense in waiting until the end of the transfer window to sign players, why not sign players early in the transfer window or fairly early even (like most clubs) and bed them in, I know it sounds crazy but I thought I should mention it.

[Letters]

Not much to talk about really as there's none happening

Ok, then there's nothing to talk about on this thread until there are other rumours flying around.

[Niall_Quinn]

If you are a fan that wants to attend matches to watch football the how is staying away en masse a solution to the Wenger problem? That's a concession, not a solution. If they didn't have a queue of plastics waiting to jump in then okay, staying away hits the bottom line and carries weight. But we know there's a queue of consumers who have more money than sense and want in on the flashy stadium and prawn sandwiches. So forget about staying away, it won't make a blind bit of difference in terms of the bottom line for the club and it won't influence anything. If you are staying away because you don't want to be robbed of a fortune in return for the abject shite served up every week, then that's a different matter and makes sense.

It's a similar thing with the apathy argument. How is saying nothing going to influence Wenger? Fans should be on his case 24/7. Get him riled. Get him angry. Get him making a fool of himself with all those stupid excuses he has. Let him embarrass himself in the media. Let the media see him falling apart. Let that pressure build until he's driven out. THAT'S how you get rid of Wenger. You make him so toxic, such a comedy figure that the board fear damage to the reputation of their nice little earner. Then they'll act.

Stay away, stay quiet. That's precisely what the club would want to see from all those who refuse to drink the Wengerjuice.

[Letters]

Posting on here isn't getting on his case, I seriously doubt he or anyone he knows reads this place. So how do we get on his case?
If staying away en masse affected the finances then it would be more effective.
In reality I agree that there are a lot of people forming an orderly queue but attendances have fallen.
Arsenal, like all big clubs, are a business. We have the power because all their money comes from us, directly or indirectly. While people continue to fill the stadium and fill the cash registers in all the Arsenal shops there is no reason for the board to change things.

[Niall_Quinn]

So noted. Now this is the thread about transfers. How about we talk about that, not reduce every single thread to whining about that.

Refusal to spend, refusal to sign a striker. That's what this thread has mostly been about has it not?

The *******s that are ruining it for everyone, I suppose you mean by that the people who don't agree with you? Why are the views of people who, after 12 seasons watching the same old shit, are fed up of this man and his antics any less worthy than your own? What are we trying to build here? A positive vibe, motivational coaching platform? Or it is a sounding board for footie fans? Isn't it usual that diverse opinions will exist when people get together to talk football.

As for EVERYTHING Wenger does being criticised, well that's easily understandable too. Some fans are starting to HATE the bloke and I can fully understand that. He's that major problem but he's such a selfish git he refuses to bend, refuses to accept that trail of failure stretched out behind him. When you get a man as stubborn as that, as selfish as that, you are going to get big reactions.

Judge him at the end of the transfer window? Which one? This one, the last one, the one where he brought that lump Giroud in? What difference does it make? He fucks them all up, one way or another. Always leaves us short in a critical area.

[Niall_Quinn]

Posting on here isn't getting on his case, I seriously doubt he or anyone he knows reads this place. So how do we get on his case?
If staying away en masse affected the finances then it would be more effective.
In reality I agree that there are a lot of people forming an orderly queue but attendances have fallen.
Arsenal, like all big clubs, are a business. We have the power because all their money comes from us, directly or indirectly. While people continue to fill the stadium and fill the cash registers in all the Arsenal shops there is no reason for the board to change things.

Don't be facetious. Here, twatter, facetube, talkshite, everywhere. If everywhere explodes into an anti-Wenger movement and that becomes the general sentiment then that's how it's done. On GW, I don't know who posts here and then heads off to twatter. Maybe somebody, maybe nobody. If points are raised here and then transported elsewhere and that process builds then all the little 0.00001% effective comments add up to one overall sentiment, and that's how the Internet works. Otherwise there would just be one web site where the world posted.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ok, then there's nothing to talk about on this thread until there are other rumours flying around.

Well, there's the lack of activity to talk about. Perfectly valid and that's what people have been doing.

[Özim]

Posting on here isn't getting on his case, I seriously doubt he or anyone he knows reads this place. So how do we get on his case?
If staying away en masse affected the finances then it would be more effective.
In reality I agree that there are a lot of people forming an orderly queue but attendances have fallen.
Arsenal, like all big clubs, are a business. We have the power because all their money comes from us, directly or indirectly. While people continue to fill the stadium and fill the cash registers in all the Arsenal shops there is no reason for the board to change things.

Thing is Arsenal is not like all big clubs, it's unique in that it really takes the fans for a ride, spends very little, charges the highest prices, barely wins a thing and also patronises the fans, no other big club does this, nor do they stick with a manager who has failed to deliver success for so long.

No other big club would get away with behaviour like this to be honest, but somehow this club does and if I'm honest I don't know how, but I do see those people still 100% behind Wenger and I just don't understand that either because the truth is he's done nothing to deserve this loyalty, yes he won a few titles many moons ago, but in reality he take's the mickey out of these people on a regular basis and they just accept it and thank him for it which I do find odd.

It would make more sense to me if he was more humble and acknowledged his failings, but the way he behaves these days really doesn't make him in likeable, he's runing his reputation and his image now.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Tolisso, an apparent Arsenal target, on his way to Napoli it seems. http://www.football-italia.net/88314...tolisso-option