Wenger Out?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

good post and i agree that people will stay loyal to the manager.however this is what i have a problem with, loyalty should be to the club and whats best for the club. if wenger is not getting the job done than he has to go or he should walk himself. i to have enjoyed parts of this season but its not enough to justify wenger staying. you play the game to win...he isnt winning, hes gotta go.


Cosigned by Coach Edwards.

Well he obviously is, to his employers why hence why they have no sacked him, To You and me he is failing to them he is not and thats what matters at end of the day sadly.

[Kano]

good post and i agree that people will stay loyal to the manager.however this is what i have a problem with, loyalty should be to the club and whats best for the club. if wenger is not getting the job done than he has to go or he should walk himself. i to have enjoyed parts of this season but its not enough to justify wenger staying. you play the game to win...he isnt winning, hes gotta go.

i think in most cases football fans would do but wenger is a dying breed of a manager staying with a top club for so long. you can see why so many fans, me included, hold a lot of respect for wenger and want him to do well. we all do. i think its normal for so many fans to be loyal/worried when an absolute legend is no longer working as he once did.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I want a change of Manager - I don't think we will win another trophy under him, it is to do with the mental strength (or lack of it) of the team when a prize is there to be won.

That said, while he is our Manager, I WANT him to do well - even if I think he won't. Some post here as if they WANT him to do poorly and that is what could be construed as an 'anti-Wenger agenda'.

But essentially, we are meant to be Arsenal supporters and the only agenda we should have is wanting what is best for the Club.

[Mr. Lahey]

Well he obviously is, to his employers why hence why they have no sacked him, To You and me he is failing to them he is not and thats what matters at end of the day sadly.

agreed but this is a thread about if wenger should stay or go. he will be here next year because the board want him here. any other team would have sacked him a while ago.

[Xhaka Can’t]

agreed but this is a thread about if wenger should stay or go. he will be here next year because the board want him here. any other team would have sacked him a while ago.

Any other team?

It depends what you want - if you are a sugar daddy and you demand silverware and are prepared to throw anything at it, yeah. But only two teams have consistently outperformed Arsenal over the 7 barren seasons. I'm guessing they'd be the only two teams to have sacked Wenger.

[Power n Glory]

this is ridiculous. there is know anti-wenger agenda. from what ive seen written by others and from my perspective Wenger has done a poor job over the past 6 years given the resources he has at his disposal. he has made so many mistakes that most other managers in football AND other sports would get sacked for. this is not an anti-wenger agenda, those of us who want him out are fed up with the way he is doing things because its NOT working. thats why people want him out, the mistakes, the stubborness, the same bullshit is why people want him out.

why didnt we show this form leading in to all of our big cup games? or the big games earlier in the season where we needed to stay competitive in the league title race? why dont we do this when the big prize is there? its not a coincidence.

the reason why people are dismissing this run of form is because we've had a purple patch every season before this, we are battling for 4th place (wenger will say this is a trophy, but its not), wenger uses these kinds of runs to justify not buying, and fans use these runs to justify why Wenger should stay. history has shown us that his way has not worked, it has nothing to do with a anti-wenger agenda.

We look a much better side now that Rosicky is playing instead of Ramsey and now that we have our fullbacks available. But we all could see that we were struggling in certain areas yet Wenger insisted on trying to play the same way without adapting his tactics and it has cost us. This may sound harsh, but I don't think we're playing better because Wenger gave some rousing team speech or changed tactics. I think the players are trying to restore some pride after the horrid run and they have also seen that Wenger is in the firing line so they're stepping up their game. That's my opinion, but I could be wrong but Wenger isn't known for giving the hair dryer treatment and his philosophy on coaching is based on allowing the players to learn for themselves and he's not the type to shout instructions. It's an interesting theory. But coming out from this season, I think he will feel this team has learned a lot about themselves and grown in experience. That might hamper our transfer activity this summer. Also, it's like this team has to hit rock bottom and get embarrassed before they start playing proper football. They're not learning how to be Champions and how to deal with pressure. He will have to push them harder and get them to stop slacking off. I just don't think he has it in him to overhaul his philosophy. It has be boot camp with this team.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I want a change of Manager - I don't think we will win another trophy under him, it is to do with the mental strength (or lack of it) of the team when a prize is there to be won.

That said, while he is our Manager, I WANT him to do well - even if I think he won't. Some post here as if they WANT him to do poorly and that is what could be construed as an 'anti-Wenger agenda'.

But essentially, we are meant to be Arsenal supporters and the only agenda we should have is wanting what is best for the Club.

This is how i feel

agreed but this is a thread about if wenger should stay or go. he will be here next year because the board want him here. any other team would have sacked him a while ago.

Agreed.

[Dennis Bendtner]

'Any other team' would not have sacked Wenger. Biggest myth levelled against him.

[Mr. Lahey]

I want a change of Manager - I don't think we will win another trophy under him, it is to do with the mental strength (or lack of it) of the team when a prize is there to be won.

That said, while he is our Manager, I WANT him to do well - even if I think he won't. Some post here as if they WANT him to do poorly and that is what could be construed as an 'anti-Wenger agenda'.

But essentially, we are meant to be Arsenal supporters and the only agenda we should have is wanting what is best for the Club.

fair enough, that makes sense however the anti-wenger agenda crowd know whats around the corner because its fucking groundhog day every year in North London. i can understand why some people are driven to wanting him to do poorly because if he doesnt get to that level than nothing will ever change. i dont condone this veiw or want wenger to do poorly but it seems the only way for things to change is for the results to continue to slide. history and word form managment have indicated this much.

[Mr. Lahey]

Any other team?

It depends what you want - if you are a sugar daddy and you demand silverware and are prepared to throw anything at it, yeah. But only two teams have consistently outperformed Arsenal over the 7 barren seasons. I'm guessing they'd be the only two teams to have sacked Wenger.

ok i overstretched on that point.