what do people expect a new manager to deliver? if lets say we win the cup and top four this season, i think thats progress and a good season though i see why people think change is needed, but if the new manager delivered that next season, is that acceptable given people want Arsene to go for potentially delivering just that.
I dont think it mathers, i think some people want to get rid of him no mather what, they'll always find a reason.Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
For me, it isn't just about where we finish, or what we win.
My annoyance is soley based on the same mistakes being made over and over. It's pretty unforgivable, no matter how much I love Wenger and all that he has done for us.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
thats a fair reason. I was asking as saw this question on twitter and someone said something quite interesting. if a new manager did come in, he would (if he started right now) be under pressure of not winning a trophy for 9 years as the club hasn't so with that in mind, does the expectations rise or does the new manager start from "0 years" since last trophy if you see what i mean.
Media would probably just change all their articles from "Wenger havent won anything in X years" to "Arsenal havent won anything in X years", unless we hired Mourinho, they would they celebrate his 4th place as an improvement to all the other 4th place trophies
This is Arsene Wenger we are talking about here? he is hardly mr introspection now is he
Anyone please, we need some major changes from the playing staff, coaching/Scouting and above all a new manager, but it just aint going to happen. Wenger is in a confort zone and the Board will back thier man. Its Groundhog Day for the next 3 seasons.
Personally speaking, I'd be putting any ideas of trophies right out of my head to start with, if anyone new came in - yes, that's what they'll eventually be judged on, but in the immediate/short-term I'd be looking more at things like whether they can modernise our thinking about fitness and injury prevention, update our scouting network, the kind of players they bring in, whether we see a change in the mentality of the teams we put out, whether we start to focus a little more on things like shape and pressing, and build more around pace and power, whether we go out with specific game plans for specific opponents, etc. For all out huffing and puffing as fans, we're a actually quite a patient bunch, and I think we could absorb another trophyless year or two, as long as we feel we're seeing signs of change - from what I've read on these forums over the last 10 years, it sounds like it's the monotony of the 'same old, same old' that's wearing everyone down, rather than any great disaster or crisis, and I think most fans will be happy to give it a little time, as long as they feel we can see something new happening...
Only way I see a new manager is if Wenger decides he has had enough but wouldn't be surprised if he is given a role in the board room and tasked to select the next manager.
I'm really starting to think he may walk away this summer, his body language is that of a beaten man. You have to think whether the players are starting to wonder if he'll sign a new deal as well.
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