West Ham away (PL) Match Reaction Thread

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

My only basis (apart from how damn sulky he looks and acts) is a David Dein interview where he said they still go out for dinner after every home game, unless we've lost in which case they don't as Wenger's no company at all when we've lost. So yeah, I think from that we can conclude he feels it. Whether he's able to do anything about it...well, it seems not. It'll be interesting to see what he does this summer. Maybe he will just go mental and spend big. Not holding my breath.

The perception amongst fans and i accept that perception isn't always fact that someone who is driven to achieve will do everything in their power to achieve, but that doesn't appear evident with Wenger. I think he wants to win on his own terms and his post match interviews at times suggests that he has become too accustomed to failure for it to have the same impact on him as locking himself in his office when he was at Highbury.
Take the Southampton 4-0 game for example, he has a fixed smirk in the post match interview and pretty much stated "oh well, the referee made it impossible for us to win the game", now forgetting for a moment that he shouldn't be thinking that anyway because that game was probably the worst Arsenal performance I've seen under Wenger in terms of both defence and going forward, but shouldn't he be as a driven man seething with anger even if he thinks the result is down to clear injustices.
That's not the body language of a man who is going to be restless all evening and be kicking the proverbial cat, this is a man who is going to go home have a glass of wine and go to bed with a clear head.

Is that the same Wenger who almost engaged in fisticuffs with Ferguson after the 2-0 defeat at Old Trafford in 2004?

[Niall_Quinn]

My only basis (apart from how damn sulky he looks and acts) is a David Dein interview where he said they still go out for dinner after every home game, unless we've lost in which case they don't as Wenger's no company at all when we've lost. So yeah, I think from that we can conclude he feels it. Whether he's able to do anything about it...well, it seems not. It'll be interesting to see what he does this summer. Maybe he will just go mental and spend big. Not holding my breath.

That was a long time ago. More recent evidence, going a decade without coming close to a title , suggests his appetite for winning has at least diminished. Or vanished. He makes no secret about his priorities. Finish top 4. Keep the finances in order. Leave behind something to build on, except he won't leave.

[fakeyank]

Pressure is a good thing but that is not going to come about because we finish below Spurs.
Have you seen the mood on this place? You think us hauling ourselves above the Spuds will placate people? Balls, will it.
Sod finishing below them, if we can finish above them then let's.

How do we know there wont be pressure on the board and manager if we finish below Spurs? We have done the same thing i.e. finish above Spurs and get top 4 for the last 11 years, how is a continuation of the status quo going to put any pressure on these people?

To me, finishing above them wont placate the fans, but finishing below them will definitely infuriate them a lot more. May be that'll give the Arsenal fans to show some real anger towards the board and the manager, rather than fighting among themselves outside the stadium and on the internet.

IMO, majority Arsenal fans are just as ball-less as the board and will probably not do a thing if we finish below Spurs, but if there is a 0.01% chance that this will lead to any added pressure on the banager (board + manager) then I am all for it. I am sick and tired of the same routine every season..

[Xhaka Can’t]

What do you do, other than maintain a wardrobe with more Arsenal gear than the average Club shop and go to an Arsenal match every time you're in London?

[fakeyank]

What do you do, other than maintain a wardrobe with more Arsenal gear than the average Club shop and go to an Arsenal match every time you're in London?

Rant on the internet trying to wake up people to the atrocities of the board/manager. I cannot do much more from here. I dont know how many on here remember but it was me 4-5 years back when I said that fans should take banners to the stadium asking for the banager to get this shit sorted. Now that idea is picking up steam among some of the fans. You can be assured that if I lived in London, I'd be the loser who would be holding up banners.

I could do more of not going to another club game and frankly I dont want to anymore either. I didnt even want to go this year, but Mrs. FY wanted to see Rosicky in his last year, and that fucker broke down after 19 minutes of his comeback! What a waste!

As for the gear, the problem is partly mine* but mostly my friends & family... they know that giving 'something related' to Arsenal is the safe gift for me.

*- My recent jersey is the first one I personally purchased since 2007.

[Letters]

That was a long time ago. More recent evidence, going a decade without coming close to a title , suggests his appetite for winning has at least diminished. Or vanished. He makes no secret about his priorities. Finish top 4. Keep the finances in order. Leave behind something to build on, except he won't leave.

It wasn't that long, it was 2 years ago, in the run-up to the 1000th game (the less said about which, the better)



That comment is about 16 minutes in, he also talks about the stadium move and how it affected our finances.
Gives you more of an insight into what the man is like than us internet twats ™ can

[Özim]

He honestly doesn't look to bothered to me in post match interviews when we lose or draw, he really only gets annoyed when people question his methods, other than that it's just another day at the office for him, reeling out a list of excuses and harping on about the spirit and mental strength the team has.

He's lost his edge no doubt about it, winning is now just a secondary aim, finances are what he's focussed on and as far as he's concerned he's a winner every season of his life.

[Letters]

Rant on the internet trying to wake up people to the atrocities of the board/manager..

Atrocities!
Oh sod off.

[Letters]

He honestly doesn't look to bothered to me in post match interviews when we lose or draw.

OK. Watch Dein's interview. Someone who knows him well, as opposed to you and me who have never met him.
Whose opinion is more valid?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Dein's professional relationship with Wenger ended in 2007