Wenger Referendum II - And this time it's personal

[Letters]

IMO you over-state how important it is to finish 2nd rather than 3rd. We're so far away from Chelsea I don't think they'd have been looking over their shoulder at us either way.
We'd won 9 games out of 10 - the end of a longer good run, we're actually closer to Chelsea than we were after 12 games - to get us in a position where 2nd was in our hands.
We slipped up in one game so now we'll probably finish 3rd. If that slip was the difference between 1st and 2nd then I would see it as a failure, as it is it's not something I'm going to over-analyse be overly critical about. There is no actual difference between 2nd and 3rd, both qualify us automatically for the CL. Had we slipped to 4th and another qualification then I'd have seen more of a problem.

We didn't fail at the final hurdle in last year's Final. We nearly did of course, but we got there. Let's see what we do this year in the final. I don't care how we scored at OT. ManYoo got a lucky deflection in the game at the Emirates. These things happen. From the highlights I saw we deserved our point. You say it would surprise you if the other teams slipped up but apart from Chelsea they all must have done or we wouldn't be anywhere near them after our start.

One win against the gypos and a cup win against Utd is NOT what I view as success, if those results were in the middle of a season when we win nothing and finish mid-table then they would be meaningless. In a season where we win the Cup, if we do, and finish the 3rd then they do give me some hope that we can win games on the big occasion.

Wenger will keep making the same mistakes, but IMO overall he's doing more right than wrong. The main point I'm tryig to make is that the next bloke will just make different mistakes and those mistakes may well lead to a worse outcome. I can sympathise with the view that we need to try something different though.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We are only postponing the inevitable anyway, there isn't a portrait of him in his home in Totteridge getting older

A man who insists on micro managing to the extent Wenger does won't stay in the game until his seventies, and really we should be pushing him gently towards the exit door whatever he does or doesn't acheive in the next couple of years. He could win a league title and champions league (neither will happen) and I still don't think it would be desirable for him to stay beyond 2017, a younger man and a fresher approach is called for...even if we found success in the short term under l'ouisseau I don't think his approach his amenable to sustainable success.

[Letters]

We are only postponing the inevitable anyway, there isn't a portrait of him in his home in Totteridge getting older.

I will have to look at your with a new-found respect with that reference

[milla]

Letters on the WUM crusade

If Cripps is still alive, he would probably in tears now.

[Niall_Quinn]

There is no actual difference between 2nd and 3rd, both qualify us automatically for the CL.

If you qualified that by stating 2nd and 3rd are both loser placings then I'd agree. Instead you say no difference because both auto qualify for the CL. Wenger's thinking exactly. Being the best you can be? Meaningless. Doing the minimum required to achieve a financial objective? As good as a trophy.

There's a HUGE difference between 2nd and 3rd, the difference between finishing above the gypos and them finishing above us. I guess if we'd have pushed on and grabbed 2nd spot all those excuses about the gypo billions would be washed away. What a relief it must be for the board and the manager.

[Globalgunner]

If you qualified that by stating 2nd and 3rd are both loser placings then I'd agree. Instead you say no difference because both auto qualify for the CL. Wenger's thinking exactly. Being the best you can be? Meaningless. Doing the minimum required to achieve a financial objective? As good as a trophy.

There's a HUGE difference between 2nd and 3rd, the difference between finishing above the gypos and them finishing above us. I guess if we'd have pushed on and grabbed 2nd spot all those excuses about the gypo billions would be washed away. What a relief it must be for the board and the manager.

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[Letters]

Doing the minimum required to achieve a financial objective? As good as a trophy.

The minimum is 4th. I don't think we're going to finish 4th.
There is no difference between 2nd and 3rd. And with a Cup Final to think about I can understand a bit of easing off when the job of CL qualification is done and the title is no longer possible.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about that.

[Letters]

...and Letters

Yep. It's definitely me WUMming.

[fakeyank]

The problem in our club is that 10 votes here on GW who want Wenger to stay. This represents the majority of our fans mentality- 'middle class'. They will chant Wengers name as long as we get the bare minimum.. no need for added success.. they are happy with 9-5 job and 40K salary with no aim or ambition.

These are folks who are not even of the opinion 'I want Wenger to stay IF'.. they are straight up happy with that mans performance. Says it all really! They account for almost 30% of the opinion here and 80% of the opinion outside Emirates. We are fucked!

[GP]

Wenger OUT!