I wouldn't be surprised if he joined his little Englanders at Chelsea.Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I wouldn't be surprised if he joined his little Englanders at Chelsea.
I wouldn't care.
If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.
Losing Cesc and Na$ri last year and RvP and Theo this year would mean we'd have no alternative but to murder the board of directors. We wouldn't get prosecuted either because everyone would understand.
Für eure Sicherheit
Is it the directors who have control of players going out?
possibly yes, if they refuse to offer the contract or pay them as much then we have no choice but to sell to get money instead of them leaving for a free. if they refuse to pay the money for wages then it forces them to go so yes they are to blame as well as wenger
Cesc going was all down to Wenger as he himself admitted it was Wenger who went to the board to convince them to let Cesc leave for a lower price.
Nasri and now RVP and Theo are/were down to the last year of their contracts. Unless they sign a new contract, makes sense to sell them
because wenger knew what damage it would do to have a captain who didnt give a shit, wanted out and spent the season before pissed off he wasnt allowed to go and put in shit performances. but of course its all wengers fault. he wanted an end to the situation as we all did.
The players are leaving because they don't believe we're capable of winning a silverware. The Carling Cup final was the last straw. Team morale hit and all time low last year an it's down to disappointing results on the field and the way we throw games away. There isn't much the directors can do to change that. Example, we spent £10m odd on Ox and wouldn't play him. We bought Park but he hardly got a game. Ramsey is low on confidence and keeps playing rubbish but always gets selected when fit. This is a tactical issue. We had the same crap years ago with players like Aluminia, Eboue, Denilson and Hoyte. His team selection and tactics keep letting us down.
Makes sense to whom? Us? The fans? Who the fuck cares if it makes sense to a bunch of bean counters in the board room? Fuck them. The fans want to see the team winning and competing at the top. Letting our best players go all the time is not the way to achieve that. Do you seriously believe there's any manager out there who wants his best players sold every year? Wasn't it Wenger who insisted Cesc and Na$ri were staying? Are you not even curious as to why he suddenly changed his mind, making himself look a fool in the process? You think somebody would do that deliberately?
There's much more going on here than escapes into the public domain. This idea the people who actually run the club and stuff millions in their pockets as a result are under the control of the manager needs to stop because it's ridiculous and gives the real (and obvious) culprits a free pass. This is simply not how a company operates. Any company. Anyway, it doesn't even need awareness of what goes on behind the scenes. All you need to do is ask a few questions and observe the evidence.
Somebody dumped £500mill+ into the club in order to buy shares that have increased steadily in price during the years we have been struggling. That's an anomaly right there and very illustrative. Did the money go into the team or into the club in any way? If not, where did it go? It went to the same people who have busily been nurturing the share price. It's not exactly a leap of cynicism to connect those two dots, is it? And considering their initial investment, how much of this windfall did the shareholders kick back? That's right, precisely zero. And this makes Wenger the bad guy? How so? His job seems clear enough, qualify for the champions league every year (for the cash) and make profits (particularly in the transfer window). That's his JOB, as in employee. If we want to slate him for the on the pitch performances of his shoestring squad then fine, we have the right to do that. But why the constant need to pretend he runs the club and wants the players to leave?
And we go back to the initial question, why does it make sense to get rid of our players? Unless you too believe the purpose of the club is to make millions for a few old farts and an incoming owner. In fact it makes no sense at all. How could it. Every time we lose these players it's like rebooting the team, we have to start again. Hard to believe the fans would want that, or the players who many claim want trophies rather than millions. And it's insane to think a manager would want it. Because how do the fans or the players or the manager gain from these destructive practices? There's only one group that benefits, isn't there? When you look at things logically rather than through a haze of hatred for Wenger.
Für eure Sicherheit
Got to say, thats an impressive post on defending Wenger and putting all the faults on the boards shoulders.
Why it makes sense? Well if they are going to leave at the end of their contract anyway then we might as well sell them a year earlier and get some money in. Where the money goes and what its used for isnt the point.
No i dont like seeing our best players leave every summer but if we dont sell RVP and Theo this summer if they refuse to sign a new contract then we'll keep them for another trophyless year and lose them on a free next summer missing out on probably £40m+?
Id rather we keep them of course but if we are destined to lose them then we might as well get money for it. Its not like they'll win us a trophy next year.
Posting Permissions
