£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium
£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium
£30m for 15 years at the top level. This will be like the £30m they paid for Rooney or Ferdinand. I think he'll prove to be a fantastic signing. Really looks a top level talent.Originally Posted by Penguin
£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium
Yeah, they signed Rio when he was 22, and got 12 years out of him.
No wonder England did so crap, all the players were busy signing for new clubs!!!
Totally agree - £30 mill for a quality left back that can only get better. Some at Southampton suggesting he could adapt into an attacking role ala Bale. Not having to worry about that position for another decade. If only our manager could get his head round this. We would prefer to buy a foreigner for £10 mill & hope he proves himself. When he doesn't or when he leaves, like Sagna, we have to start again & spend another 15-20 mill = same cost as Shaw. By this time Shaw is an England regular, delivering quality every week & now worth £50 mill. We don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that spending £30 mill on young quality can actually be an investment.
As much as I think that the price is hideously extortionate for a fullback who has done very little and that Man Utd have been taken to the cleaners by Southampton, I'd much rather adopt their approach of overpaying to get their first choice target early on instead of our tactics which have been over the past few seasons to make lowball derisory offers which don't exceed Wenger's own moral valuation at the ultimate expense of not getting the player we need. The end result being a last minute deadline day trolley dash rummaging through the bargain bins to frantically get sub quality cover.£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium
In short, I'd much rather have our first choice target and be laughed at by others for overpaying instead of not getting the player we need and then boast about value for money, as if that is a trophy.
You guys really want Wenger to spend big money on young talent? Haven't we already done this with Reyes, Walcott and Ox? Let's not get all green eyed here. It's not £30m but those guys weren't cheap and I wouldn't want us to take anymore risks on young players considering our track record.
Depends on who the young talent is obviously. Luke Shaw? No, I'm happy with Gibbs at LB. My point was only that I don't think we'll be saying Man Utd got ripped off in 10 months time. As far as I can see, the moaning is not actually about not signing Luke Shaw, but the unwillingness to pay the asking price for our first targets. We will definitely wait to see which big moves happen and look at who's available towards the end of the window.
I'd agree with spending what's required on first choice targets but I think they've taken a massive risk. It's the sort we can't afford. He may turn out to be a Rio type signing, but United have also blown serious money on Nani and Anderson. Smalling and Jones aren't looking so hot either.
I don't think you said much wrong in your post but I'm just a bit uneasy with the suggestion that United have a better strategy than ours. We can't afford to do what they do.
Why do you class buying young English talent as a risk. Walcott & OX haven't neccessarily set the world on fire in an Arsenal shirt - some of the blame has to lie with poor management & ofcourse both seem to love hospitals but if they had had injury free seasons last year & both gone to Brazil what do you reckon their market value would be - YES, far more than what we paid so therefore for 2 players who could be doing better we would still return a profit on sale. Hardly a risk.
Now, lets say that OX has an injury free year & takes the Prem by storm which is a possibility - could have a silly Spanish offer or a Gypo offer for 60-70 mill within a few years.
Ozil for £47 mill was more of a risk than £30 mill for Shaw, another couple of poor seasons for him & we'll struggle to get half our money back.
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