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[Özil's Panoramic View]

i assume you are talking about vertonghan here. he wants playing time hence why he wont come to us because he cant be arsed to fight for his place so he will go to the scum where he has it easy. says more about him then us

This is quite laughable really, with the porus defense we currently have, I can't see Vertonghen, or any other defender of his calibre, being overly concerned about playing time in our team - more like he might feel like he'd be over worked considering our extremely poor defensive record over the last few years.

[Globalgunner]

so you say we fucked up when ten points behind city and then say scum fucked up because they were too high for themselves while ignoring our run of form with 9 wins in 11 games?

wenger can make us win stuff but he can also not. i think this year we saw a team, we saw players willing to play out of posistion to help the team, we saw huge desire and determination. while we moan about wenger instilling a shit attiude, we surely ahve to praise him for turning it around and creating the best spirt in a team at this club since the invincbles

Where was this great spirit when we were all browning our underwear against Norwich and Swansea. have we now forotten that we were 1 goal conceded away from being in the europa league with the spuds laughing at US

[Ollie the Optimist]

This is quite laughable really, with the porus defense we currently have, I can't see Vertonghen, or any other defender of his calibre, being overly concerned about playing time in our team - more like he might feel like he'd be over worked considering our extremely poor defensive record over the last few years.

if you read his quotes etc, he says he wants guarneted starting at CB, we would sign him as yes a first teamer but as cover too. he doenst want to fight for his place here, he wants to join a club where because they pay lots of money he will start all the time. that says to me he cant be arsed to fight for his place, just wants it easy. dont want his sort at our club

[Ollie the Optimist]

Where was this great spirit when we were all browning our underwear against Norwich and Swansea. have we now forotten that we were 1 goal conceded away from being in the europa league with the spuds laughing at US

one goal ten goals it doesnt fucking matter. we got third because we came back from nowhere. it doesnt matter if we got there by one goal or ten points. irrelevant argument

also to add to my argument here, its like telling city not to celebrate winning the league because they were one goal from united winning it and laughing at them.

[Marc Overmars]

It's definitely harder than it used to be. Maybe impossible is stretching it too far but you've got 2 sides now with billionaire backers, Utd with a better manager and more money too. We used to only have to compete with 1 side really, now it's at least 3 and other sides are spending big to try and get in the top 4 too.

Don't get me wrong, it's very tough to win now and we're not doing a bad job at all finishing just below the 2 sides you mention. However you also mention how good Fergie is, which suggests that a bit of managerial nous can also go a long way. Wenger is by no means a bumbling idiot but it's impossible to ignore the infuritating aspects which creeped in many years ago that have now firmly embedded themselves into the fabric of the team. Wenger has overseen all of that, half a billion isn't needed to ensure we go for the kill at 1-0 up, see off some pub teams, defend as a unit etc. So that's why I can't really accept the idea we should forget about challenging.

I think it was TT who mentioned it on the last page but we shouldn't get bogged down with the notion that Wenger is the only one who can do this. Football has evolved a lot now and there are probably a host of savvy managers out there just waiting for their chance to create a legacy. I mean, who was Arsene Wenger 15 years ago?

Even with the penny pinching that goes on behind the scenes, Arsenal is still a club with ample resources and I'm sure we'd provide the best possible platform for a new manager to succeed.

[AKBapologist]

Montpellier won in france despite the PSG millions. bayern got thier arses handed to them twice by Dortmund. money isnt everything. This team with an astute manager who will instill discipline and organise the team on the pitch could without any additions get within 5-10 points of the manchesters. with 3 better players and dropping clearly inadequate players like ramsey, we could actually challenge. wenger has had his time and has clearly failed. Time to move on.

What we actually need is a merger of Wenger and George Graham. has anyone got a Joe 90 machine that can do the job. leaving the predeliction for bungs out of the transfer.

Do you really think anyone outside of the top 6 has a chance of winning the league?


I honestly think the league is a long shot. Cups on the other hand... Only a matter of time who ever we have as manager.

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[Kano]

In terms of the title yeah, pretty much.

wow, i hope to god any footballers we sign aren't as defeatist as you are.

perhaps as an alternative, people should try to shake off their Skyvision and remember that the cups out there are winnable by our team. then if the manager could do the same, whoever that may be, then we might actually lift a trophy again.

[Kano]

No-one subscribes to that notion. But there are plenty of managers out there who would make us worse.

well everything you are saying seems to side with that opinion. not once have i seen you talk about a new manager being better or doing as well as wenger.

is wenger the peak of this club and its all down hill from here then?

[Cripps_orig]

Some news to cheer us all up in these dark times

Arsenal centre-back Johan Djourou is considering leaving the club this summer, following a frustrating campaign with the Gunners.

The Swiss defender was restricted to only 14 Premier League starts this season, some of which were at right-back rather than his more preferred central role.

The 25-year-old recently signed a contract extension, tying him down at the Emirates until 2015, meaning he may have to look for a loan move in order to secure regular first team football.

Djourou is keen to find a way out, with the likes of Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker all ahead of him in the pecking order.

"My situation at Arsenal is not easy," Djourou told Swiss website 20 Minuten. "I've never played so little and especially not in my own position. If an interesting offer comes, I'll look at it carefully."

The defender's concerns have been raised by recent comments from Swiss national boss Ottmar Hitzfeld regarding his future in the national team setup.

"If he wants to be selected, he must have some game time in the club. This is not the case at Arsenal," Hitzfeld told reporters.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...g-arsenal-exit

[Cripps_orig]

No-one subscribes to that notion. But there are plenty of managers out there who would make us worse.

And there are managers out there who might do better.

You should be more optimistic