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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I can't see any major improvements while Wenger is still in charge. His flaws run too deep and signings won't fix that. That's why I say he should leave.
    well exactly. it's sad but true that we have finally reached this point but it had to come eventually. he needs a new challenge as much as we need refreshing as a club. we may take a hit and fall out of the top four which would be a problem but a big club goes nowhere by playing safety first all the time. however what we want as fans and what the directors want seem to be on separate pages which is the problem. on a pure footballing level, wenger is still a good manager of course but the repetition of our seasons clearly shows that he either is not ready to or capable of addressing and changing them.

    so whilst changing to a new manager is a risk, that is what the game is supposed to be about. and anyway, the prediction every season from pretty much everyone is 4th place or lower, so that is hardly a guaranteed position of safety. instead of constantly bemoaning what may happen without wenger, more thought should be put into what positives may come from the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post


    First of all, Wenger is not guaranteed to sign a new deal with us. This could be his last contract with us and that has to be taken into consideration soon enough. A job for life at Arsenal doesn't mean he has a job as the manager of Arsenal for life. He could be gone very soon and we need to accept that. Also, we don't know what's being said behind closed doors. Owners usually always back the manager in the public. They might not sack but they don't have to offer him a great new deal to stay on. But we'll soon find out.

    As said before, I don't accept the need for a change in ownership because that sort of change is way more riskier than bringing in a new manager. This is why I question where you guys are going with this logic, I'm not the thick one here. On the one hand you criticise clubs like Man City and Chelsea for the money they spend and dodgy owners they have, yet you say we need new owners to see a change. Don't you see the problem with that?
    I'm saying that for you to greet your wish, you need leaders who have the same aspirations as you do. I'm more or less satisfied with where we are personally so stop projecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I'm saying that for you to greet your wish, you need leaders who have the same aspirations as you do. I'm more or less satisfied with where we are personally so stop projecting.

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    You're happy with the fact that we've gone 7 years without a trophy, and are seemingly unable to finish higher than 3rd in the league? Or the fact that the SAME problems that affected this side 5 years ago still affect us now? Football is not simply about the balance sheet, or making profits and running a "self sustainable" business model. It is also about glory, and we have to at least have aspirations to win trophies, rather than treat the cups as an afterthought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    In terms of the title yeah, pretty much.
    You can cut that out straight away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks View Post
    anyone surprised like me that me didn't go for Kagawa? I thought we would knowing Wenger's love for Japanese football.
    Yup! Surprised? Fucked off more like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    I'm just annoyed, as Ive come in from work and seen the thread jump up loads of pages - I thought we'd actually signed someone, then I find out its pages of endless shit and drivel about what wenger has/hasn't done.

    Ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Damn, I think the Llorente stuff might have been made up.

    There we go, back on track.
    Press conference at 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Decent player
    Never heard of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I'm saying that for you to greet your wish, you need leaders who have the same aspirations as you do. I'm more or less satisfied with where we are personally so stop projecting.

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    You're one of the few then. If you're happy with the board and Wenger then cool.

    The Board are looking at the bigger picture. It's not their job to scrutinise every result, who we're playing and how we won or lost our last game. That's not saying they don't aspire to us being the best club in the world. We have a long term strategy in place and that's always going to be their focus and will take priority. They don't do game by game analysis and they can't project that way either. Their looking at yearly growth and how to maximise revenue so we can compare with the super clubs.

    Wenger on the other hand has a much shorter range to measure success with. It goes game by game. Season by season analysis. He shouldn't be satisfied with his performance as a manager. He probably isn't but what makes me really angry is the fact that he can't stop making the same errors and history keeps repeating itself. That's why I'm not happy with him as a manager because he seems incapable of sorting this problem out or just plain stubborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    Press conference at 7
    FL Week.

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