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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I think we do have enough quality to match them, in most cases. Obviously we have an issue in a couple of key areas and these will certainly come home to roost as they season develops. But there's enough quality and cover elsewhere to give anyone a run for their money.

    But as you say, the manager. A massive handicap we have to carry into every game. Over 38 games it's unlikely an impediment that significant can be overcome on enough occasions to get the points required to win a title. All the idiot had to do was dig in that cash mountain and bring in another couple of players, but as the last 10 years show Wenger knows best.
    Moral of the story.

    Wenger Out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    I disagree that the squad isn't good enough. 1 or 2 more additons would be nice but not essential. Bit harsh to say he hates to spend money as well given how much we've spunked in last couple of years.

    However to answer your question I don't think we'll win it again under Wenger as for me his tactics / approach will let us down when it comes to crunch time. Hoping to put up more of a fight this season though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    I am not just talking this season I am talking any season.

    The man just hates to spend money and cannot see what most people can plainly see.

    The thing that concerns me the most and I hate to say it but what if Coquelin gets a 3 month injury in September or whenever, Flamini or Arteta are not good enough to fill in for that length of time, we need somebody much better.

    I think we might need a right winger as well because that is not Ramseys position and the Ox and Theo are injury prone.

    There is also Mertersacker in defence which is worrying.

    I am sure there are other things as well, like playing under real pressure and easing off when we are two nil up which we seem to do.

    I hate to say this but at the moment we have no chance whatsoever of winning the Premier League or the Champions League anytime soon.

    I wonder sometimes if Wenger really wants to win but then I'm sure I am wrong to think that.

    It is incredibly frustrating.
    Fuck! I have just read this post from pre season 2015 and it is spot on, even the Coquelin injury! Lol!

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    Arsene Wenger has told Sky Sports Arsenal feel "guilty" over their failed Premier League title challenge.

    The Gunners head to relegation-threatened Sunderland on Super Sunday hoping to climb back above Manchester City into third place as the pressure to seal a top-four spot increases.

    Wenger admits his side have not been "clinical enough" to challenge for a first league crown since 2004, but reckons they have faced some unfair criticism during a season that has seen Leicester emerge as shock potential champions.

    From fan scrutiny and the games he feels were turning points in the season to how he thinks the Premier League is changing, Wenger lifts the lid to reporter Geoff Shreeves...

    SHREEVES: What do you make of the top-four race and where you sit in it?

    WENGER: "It's very simple. We all feel guilty and we are all looked at like it's a shame we are not winning the league because Leicester are at the top.

    "But on the other hand, you have to say Leicester have not stolen the points. They have earned them, they have quality. If you look at the PFA Team of the Year, they have many players in there, so they are good players.

    "I am convinced that all the teams today look at themselves and think 'how could that happen?', but when you win so many times 1-0 like Leicester have done, you see they have been absolutely efficient.

    "It is true that technically many teams in the league are better, but many teams have had more problems. Leicester have had no injuries, many teams have had more competitions. Leicester went out of the FA Cup quite early, but you have to give them credit when everybody expected them to drop they didn't and when they had to turn up they did.

    "It will be interesting psychologically to study Leicester because it's a very interesting case. There is a theory that says to go to the absolute utmost of your talent you need to suffer in life. When you look at the Leicester team, not one career of all these players was obvious, like starting on the red carpet at 18 years of age in the Champions League.

    "Many of the players have been rejected before… it is an interesting case. N'Golo Kante, nobody wanted him in France for a while. That is a good explanation for his character.

    "These players had a dream that was not easy to obtain, but when they are in a position to reach it, they are ready for the fight. The lesson of the season is Leicester. Maybe they are not the most prestigious in quality of the passing, but they found a way to be efficient and have shown mental qualities that are absolutely top."

    SHREEVES: Are you saying Leicester were hungrier than anyone else, a criticism of your team and everybody else's teams?

    WENGER: "That is the difficulty of being honest in the media today. As soon as you come up with a quality it shows that you don't have that quality. They were hungry and efficient. My team is hungry also, but we have to deal with many problems and many competitions as well.

    "When you play on Wednesday in Barcelona and then Saturday morning, you go to Crystal Palace or Everton, it changes things. Next year, I predict that Leicester will have more problems.

    "They have found a good balance, hungry players who have not had obvious careers. We are accused the most, but we beat them twice. So we should be less accused than others for not having beaten them.

    "They go to Man City, Tottenham, Man United, Liverpool and have only lost three games. At the end of the day, you have to say well done. Sport is about performance and when the team performs, you have to be big enough and say well done and respect it and respect Claudio Ranieri for what he has done."

    On Leicester's style of play, having the least possession and passing accuracy…

    WENGER: "You cannot last like that. If they win a title like that, you have to say well done and respect. But in the Champions League, if they don't touch the ball, it will be difficult on Saturday. When you run after the ball on Wednesday against Barcelona and then turn up on Saturday away from home, it becomes more difficult.

    "They will have to adapt, but I am not intelligent enough to see what will happen to them. I am just big enough to say well done to them."

    SHREEVES: What did for you and your team was the run of results in March?

    WENGER: "There were two turning games - Man United and Swansea. At the end of the day, we had many injuries and it was the first time where we could not do a lot about it.

    "We didn't have Welbeck, Wilshere, Cazorla, all traumatic injuries, not muscular. The positive thing is we discovered players like Elneny and Iwobi. But we were not clinical enough.

    "The quality of our game collectively for most of the season was good and in March and April, but we didn't get the points we needed and we were in a position where we had to win every game so it makes it more difficult.

    "Then the coincidence of fixtures. Now we play Sunderland, and we could have played a Sunderland on holiday with nothing to go for, in March and April that has a big influence. I have seen games recently where teams didn't turn up. That has changed a bit in the Premier League as well."

    SHREEVES: In the Premier League, is the game in terms of effective football, changing?

    WENGER: "Yes. The physical levels of teams has gone up and tactical knowledge of defending has gone up. Players who do not contribute to team work are kicked out everywhere.

    "Then you go two ways: you say 'look that doesn't work any more so we have to change our style, and I wish you good luck when you kick the ball anywhere after people have seen good football for 10-15 years', or you say 'we have analysed well where we are not efficient enough and we do better with the style we play'.

    "We have to go that way. Our passing has to be quicker, our movement has to be sharper and our efficiency in the final third has to be better. We don't have anybody with 20 goals in the league, so that is a handicap."

    SHREEVES: Have you ever known a more downbeat atmosphere at the Emirates than against West Brom?

    WENGER: "You want your fans to be enthusiastic, and we are not playing to avoid relegation. Ideally, you want fans to be happy and I think they can be very proud of a lot at this club. We want them to be behind the team, to be proud of the club and the values and consistent achievement of the club. It is not enough and we can understand that, but that doesn't stop us from performing. The top level of sport is to master all situations."

    SHREEVES: What about the challenge of facing Sunderland?

    WENGER: "I think Sam Allardyce has found a settled team that he plays in every game and he has made a decision that it's them or nothing. He knows his team, they know how to behave. The psychological impact of going down or not motivates the players and puts more pressure on this game - on us and them.

    "Both teams are under pressure so the intensity is huge and the psychological impact of the result is huge. Both teams have to deal with that. We expect a very intense game, fighting for survival, players are more ready to give everything.

    "I watched them recently, they played good football, they have a good midfield and good variety and Jermain Defoe can score goals form nothing."
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...orts-exclusive

    He turns pundit but does throw in a few excuses for good measure.

    Saying this: "You want your fans to be enthusiastic, and we are not playing to avoid relegation." is fecking daft though.

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    The reason Arsene Wenger in my view can't win the premier league title again is that he will always hold back, whether it be in the transfer market or making changes to the setup on the pitch. Talks about his players playing with the handbrake on, well I wonder where they learnt that from.

    Tactically there will always be stronger managers but he's not an ignoramous, he's just entrenched in his own methods. You get the impression you are pulling teeth trying to get any kind of concession out of him to change things up.
    Will he be agressive or argumentative about it, absolutely not I don't think people fall out with Wenger because he isn't confrontational he will probably tell you he respects your opinion and then totally ignore it.

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    A bit stupid to mention injuries. We had no excuses after the squad United had that day. As for Swansea, we shouldn't really need a full compliment of players to beat them at home.

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    His excuses are a joke frankly, yes sure Leicester didn't have CL football but then they don't have a big squad like us and the whole reason we have this is to be able to cope with the extra games. As for the injuries, again no sympathy there as every single season he insists on relying on players who are proven crocks, players who spend a lot of time omn the treatment table, that's his fault.

    As for the hunger of the players, Leicester players are hungry because they weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, they had to earn their stripes. We just hand kids big money before they've even played and proved their worth, it's little wonder they lack hunger and desire, they have it all before they've kicked a ball in anger. Of course he says we have hunger but were affected by other issues and more games.

    He also reckons we've played good football for the last 10-15 years, he's clearly not been watching, in more recent times the football has been awful, repetitive, predictable and slow, there's nothing "good" about it, it was very good pre 2005 but since then it's been going downhill, very few enjoy our football but he still thinks it's the muts nuts, he just doesn't listen to anyone.

    He also mentions the coincidence of the fixtures and this game being difficult because Sunderland have a lot to play for and we could have played them when they had nothing to play for, that goes for any team, we played West Brom and Palace with nothing to play for or not totally focussed, it's the same for every team.

    Another article full of excuses from Wenger, that's all he does nowadays make excuses, he has none of the answers but all the excuses.
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    'Everyone knew about Kante but didn't want him'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    A bit stupid to mention injuries. We had no excuses after the squad United had that day. As for Swansea, we shouldn't really need a full compliment of players to beat them at home.
    One small line in there says it all, where he talks about being honest with the media. Most of that is bullshit above, if he came out and spoke more candidly, he knows he'd be torn to pieces my the media.

    It doesn't matter what he says to the press, the truth is there for all of us to see out on the pitch.

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    He should go for not buying a striker in the summer. Giroud is only good for backup.
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