Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Bumble]

This German defender at Valencia, anyone seen him play. is he any good? Will he fit in at Arsenal... or is he likely to be fully fit all the time. Is he a German international to the level that Franny Jeffers was an England International or is there more than that?

Also was Lacazette in the French squad at the Euros? and If so, is someone behind Giroud in the pecking order really an improvement?

[Niall_Quinn]

No but there's always a limit.

But the irritation I have at the lack of measured opinions is what keeps me coming here

A forum like this can only thrive on conflict, not on consensus

It's becoming slightly stale because there really isn't anything new to discuss, this has been a poor transfer window but a) almost all out transfer windows are poor and b) most of us agree that new players wouldn't necessarily breach the gap anyway.

So really it's just a re-tread of the old arguments, but that's ok.

I compare it to PMQs, people complain because it's adversarial cage match nature that is off putting. I submit that it's off putting because people aren't that interested in politics. And people who are love the petty insult throwing and the farmyard braying.

They just think because everything has to be about bettering ourselves we have to pretend we don't like it

Well I didn't come here to better myself.

I understand all that, but what you are saying doesn't necessarily hold true in all cases even here on GW. Occasionally in a season Arsenal will play well and as a result the atmosphere is changed. It's just as much fun to discuss how well we played. But you are right. This doesn't happen nearly enough and what we are left with is a bland repetition which is made even worse by the predictability of it all. And considering we can't jump on the phone to the guilty parties we get satisfaction by dumping frustrations here instead. This transfer window is a classic example. Things are calm enough going in as we consider the options, possibilities, requirements. There's always a degree of cynicism (even the thread title suggests it this year) but there's still a degree of hope even if it's slim. Then the days roll by and the usual picture unfolds and the mood descends into acrimony or indifference. I'd rather it didn't though. It would be much better to be talking about new signings that could actually make a difference to our fortunes. Enjoying the in-fighting caused by the club and it's activities (or lack of activity) isn't as much fun as we might be having if there was some positive news. Instead we get the club claiming penury. It's so brazen it's kind of funny.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I understand all that, but what you are saying doesn't necessarily hold true in all cases even here on GW. Occasionally in a season Arsenal will play well and as a result the atmosphere is changed. It's just as much fun to discuss how well we played. But you are right. This doesn't happen nearly enough and what we are left with is a bland repetition which is made even worse by the predictability of it all. And considering we can't jump on the phone to the guilty parties we get satisfaction by dumping frustrations here instead. This transfer window is a classic example. Things are calm enough going in as we consider the options, possibilities, requirements. There's always a degree of cynicism (even the thread title suggests it this year) but there's still a degree of hope even if it's slim. Then the days roll by and the usual picture unfolds and the mood descends into acrimony or indifference. I'd rather it didn't though. It would be much better to be talking about new signings that could actually make a difference to our fortunes. Enjoying the in-fighting caused by the club and it's activities (or lack of activity) isn't as much fun as we might be having if there was some positive news. Instead we get the club claiming penury. It's so brazen it's kind of funny.

Each to their own, frankly when Arsenal have had a really good result i don't always tend to come on here

I remember in 2014 when everyone was happy when we signed Alexis Sanchez which seemed totally counter-intuitive because he was exactly the kind of player we needed. It was horrible.

[Niall_Quinn]

Each to their own, frankly when Arsenal have had a really good result i don't always tend to come on here

I remember in 2014 when everyone was happy when we signed Alexis Sanchez which seemed totally counter-intuitive because he was exactly the kind of player we needed. It was horrible.

West Ham just launched a one-time kit for £90 for the Juventus match. This is football today. I think you'll have a plentiful supply of conflict to get your teeth into as the game in general swims deeper into the shitter. My theory of unity in success is just that, a theory. I don't think it will ever have any practical applications unless something dramatic happens within the game.

[Power n Glory]

This German defender at Valencia, anyone seen him play. is he any good? Will he fit in at Arsenal... or is he likely to be fully fit all the time. Is he a German international to the level that Franny Jeffers was an England International or is there more than that?

Also was Lacazette in the French squad at the Euros? and If so, is someone behind Giroud in the pecking order really an improvement?

I wouldn't pay too much attention to international selection. France lost the final as the host nation so something went wrong somewhere. Also, thinking back to the amount of times Ian Wright and Andy Cole were snubbed for England, something similar could be happening with Lacazette. Sometimes players get snubbed.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

West Ham just launched a one-time kit for £90 for the Juventus match. This is football today. I think you'll have a plentiful supply of conflict to get your teeth into as the game in general swims deeper into the shitter. My theory of unity in success is just that, a theory. I don't think it will ever have any practical applications unless something dramatic happens within the game.

Consensus and Unity don't make for discussion, emnity and conflict do

[Niall_Quinn]

Rooney is the benchmark example of why it's not wise to judge a player based on International activity, or lack of it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Consensus and Unity don't make for discussion, emnity and conflict do

[Power n Glory]

Rooney is the benchmark example of why it's not wise to judge a player based on International activity, or lack of it.

Oh yeah, that too.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I might start calling this place the argument clinic