One thing's for sure the club has to grow some balls over both of their contracts. We don't need to be dicked around by half-hearted commitment by either of them. Stay and sign or do one.
One thing's for sure the club has to grow some balls over both of their contracts. We don't need to be dicked around by half-hearted commitment by either of them. Stay and sign or do one.
They both have us by the balls, especially Ozil. He can go pretty much anywhere and improve his wage quite significantly so I see no reason why he's going to stick around. Why would he? We lack ambition and don't compete for the big prizes. The fact that Barca and Bayern are sniffing around doesn't bode well, Wenger had to convince him to stay last summer when Bayern came calling, what convincing can he do now?Originally Posted by Kano
Sanchez is a slightly different case, of course he would be courted by many clubs if he's on the market but I think we'll be able to tie him down.
Losing either player will set us back, it's not like we'll replace them like for like if at all.
Ozil is definitely the more flaky of the too I’d imagine. Alexis I can see showing a bit more loyalty and signing on. If Ozil doesn’t then we need to ship him on. We don’t’ need another season of ‘will he won’t he’ hanging round the club, then with a year left we get shafted on price. Especially as Wenger will still be at the club, in his last year of contract too. So double the media stress and the fans getting more pent up with the club too.
I think the fact that Wenger may leave soon makes it more likely they'll go unless we sort things out quickly. I doubt they'll sign a new deal unless they know which manager is coming in to replace him.
Yep, Wenger has a lot of work to do in the summer, I'd imagine both of them will be looking for the club to show some ambition in the market otherwise they'll be off. Can see the negotiations getting very messy and them dragging on.
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This is the irony. Undoubtedly, Wenger (and his promises?) were the reason why both players joined us. His leaving will make it more likely that both players will leave - as its difficult to see what 'name' would convince them that Wenger going wouldn't simply mean another protracted rebuilding period. Guardiola would have done but the fact is that there are few managers of his stature/track record around. Would Conte have the same effect, for example?
I think it's become clear why the addition of 3 genuinely world class players joining us has not pushed us on - and that's because Wenger trusted his existing players to improve to be able to play the way he visualises the game, but instead they are either simply not good enough or have failed to improve...
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I think it’s the uncertainty that causes the main issue. Under the current circumstances, I don’t see them staying or signing new deals because Wenger’s future is up in the air. I’m not saying they’re staying because of him because it’s more likely they’ll leave because of him if he sticks around long enough. If we sign a manager with a good rep and they fit into his plans, they’re more likely to stay.
Nope I don't think they'll stay because of Wenger. They probably came because of him, though...
It is an issue (another one). Our underperforming players will stay because they are on a good thing. Difficult to see how we will continue to sign worldies while we are clearly not on an upward trajectory, though. Wenger's refusal to committ fully in the transfer market over the past couple of seasons will come home to bite us.
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